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Quit whining about contracts.
There sure is a lot of whining about contracts going on here. Everyone seems to hate them, but there's no reason they have to sign these. I've worked for several cell phone companies and it's always the same sob story. You always have the option of bringing a phone in from ebay, or just purchasing the phone outright. Do you people really think these phones with GPS, cameras, MP3 players, and any other number of features really cost somewhere between free and 100 bucks? These companies take hits on the phones when they sell them to you at such a small price, the contract is there way of making sure you don't bolt after 2 months when they took a 400 dollar hit on a phone. I agree there are a lot of charges that are unfair and annoying regarding service and data requirements, but the contracts are totally fair. Again........don't like them.... pay full price. I've had people tell me they shouldn't have to be in a contract to get it at that price because they've been a customer for sooooo long, yet in the same contract will discuss the possibility of changing to another carrier....and you wonder why they want to make sure you just don't walk when they just gave you a blackberry for free.
Also, paying full price might teach a lot of people to value the technology they're purchasing, thus reducing the need for new equipment all the time. You wouldn't fling a brand new guitar or laptop around like it's nothing, then why would you do it with a 500 dollar guitar?
I would agree, When getting
I would agree, When getting service there is essentially two part to a service agreement (Contract) One is the terms of service, this is essentially the contract part, it is the legal-ese that binds you and the company into a "Mutually Acceptable" agreement. My advise is READ IT!!! The second part is the commitment, which is essentially a promise of continued revenue from the consume to the company in exchange for reduce priced equipment or a promotional rate.
With most company's the subsidized price of the handset will equal or exceed the cost of the ETF, not counting any mail in rebates. You exchange up front cost for a promise of revenue.
Most companies offer a Post Paid no contract service, on a Month to Month "contract", which even as written while your commitment is expired will take over.
What I find odd is that many carriers violate their own terms for the benefit of their customer or do not strictly enforce the terms of service that ultimatley may benefit the consumer but no one bitches about that. Example from AT&T Terms of Service.
YOU MUST, WITHIN 100 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THE BILL, NOTIFY US IN WRITING AT AT&T, BILL DISPUTE, 1025 LENOX PARK., ATLANTA, GA 30319 ("AT&T'S ADDRESS") OF ANY DISPUTE YOU HAVE WITH RESPECT TO THE BILL, INCLUDING ANY CHARGES ON THE BILL AND ANY SERVICE WE PROVIDED FOR WHICH YOU WERE BILLED, OR YOU WILL HAVE WAIVED YOUR RIGHT TO DISPUTE THE BILL OR SUCH SERVICES AND TO BRING, OR PARTICIPATE IN, ANY LEGAL ACTION RAISING ANY SUCH DISPUTE.
So when you call and exceed your rate plan cause you can not monitor your own usage, and the rep offers you a rate plan, that you could have proactively changed at their website to prevent a high bill to begin with, and when you you ask for an adjustment (politely or angrily) and they re-rate your bill as if you had the higher plan... Do You Bitch... I bet not, unless your you feel that you should get something for nothing and actually think you should not have to pay the 20.00 Price plan difference opposed to the 230.00 in overage.
My Thoughts on ETF's... You should only be charged IF you agree to get a Subsidized handset, and the Company did not strictly violate their Own Terms of Service, and to be honest if you have a legitimate issue, and you have given them ample oppurtunity to resolve, and is with in the limits of the technology, someone will waive your ETF, especially if it is service related.
You may have to spend some time allowing reps and tech support to try a few things, or to file a ticket, and you may have to escalate a level or two, but you will find someone who will see it from your point of view.
Mobile service is not perfect and no Carrier has service everywhere, and to expect such is utterly ridiculous. If you live in a Trailer, expect your signal to be less indoors, especially if you live in a rural area. Research before you buy, check coverage maps, although not entirely accurate they are a good guide, ask friends and family.
And use the hell out of the phone in your Buyers remorse period if it is not working the way you want Return it and cancel the service with out a fee. Make sure you understand the return policy, ask questions, and for god sakes do not go to a carrier simply for the phone.
The reason why company's are so hard on waiving ETF's is there are so many people out there who work to defraud companies, and try to play all these "tips and Tricks" in very illegitimate ways just because they want to get the newest device from another carrier, and it is those people that create a very difficult market and revenue loss. They may be multi Billion dollar companies, but they are a business with employees and stock holders, who they have a interest in as well.
I so look forward to the day when one of the big names decide to stop subsidizing the cost of phones, at that time all the rest will follow.
If you do not want a ETF, do not get a subsidized handset, pay the retail cost, or provide your own, but if you buy from some place other than a authorized channel and decide to get a phone from ebay, craigslist etc.. do not expect the company to provide you one or give you a break on your bill when it breaks or stops working.
For everyone who has a legitimate issue with their service I am sorry your provider has not lived up to your reasonable expectations, I encourage you to contact your provider and simply talking with a rep, and if that fails speak to a manager and thier manager and so on until someone can resolve your issue.
For those (most people) Who expect something for nothing you are the reason that when I have an issue that employees are skeptical, You are the reason that rates increase, You are the reason that when I call there is a long wait time, You are the reason that Phone insurance requires an affidavit to complete a claim. Every time you call a customer service you cost the company money, depleting their profits, forcing them to remove empowerment from employees, removing their ability to make good business decisions and developing hard nosed bill adjustment policies, and in the end making life hard for the majority of customers who for the most part are satisfied with a carrier and have the occasional issue because it was a human being on the other end who made a mistake or an error.
The best way to not have a contract
Just reading this forum, I wonder how many people are oppressed by these wireless contracts, and trying to get out of them.
You don't need a contract to get wireless service. The lure of something free or deeply discounted is not unique to this industry but remember the old saying 'no such thing as free lunch' and realize the best way out of a contract is to never sign one.
The money you save up front you will more than pay for unless your service remains excellent AND your phone lasts longer than your contract term. I learned this trick when my phone was broken while under contract but not warranty.
GO on Ebay, search for "UNLOCKED GSM". There will be a range from very cheap to brand new high end. They all will sell for much less than retail. Then choose the provider you want (some like sprint or metroPCS don't take normal sim cards)
Cellreception.com can help you find the best in your area. Sign up for monthly service without contract or do pre-paid. You will save in the long run and have no contract stress. Any problems, cancel and try another provider using the same phone. Works for international as well, buy a local prepaid card and pop it in. Except for japan this works great.
Save money, sleep at night, hopefully this helps someone
AT&T Wireless spent $3 BILLION dollars advertising 'More Bars'
Unfortunately, 'in more places' meant 'outside more places.
'AT&T, the nation's third-biggest ad spender, poured in more than $3 billion.' Google that sentence to find it. I had posted a link but it triigered this site's spam filter.
Now THAT should piss you off. When I called them Monday, I pressed '2' to speak to a representative and was put on hold, and I hung up after 9 minutes. I called back and pressed '3' to 'add a service' to my account and got someone right away. It didn't do any good. I heard the same lie, 'a new tower is coming on-line in your area next week'. I was with Alltel for 14 years but Verizon doubled my monthly cost so I went with AT&T. Big mistake.
if i port my number from
if i port my number from verizon to at&t will i have to pay the etf to keep my new account with at&t. Will the ETF be added to my new at&t bill?
T Mobile A villain story: Help to get out of it for free.
First things firsts. I bought a t mobile plan last year or about 2 years ago. I bought this service for my mother since this was my first apartment. Too keep her happy and too talk freely without any worries about minutes, of course.
Well, I work at wal-mart. So naturally I get a 15% discount with my benefits. So anyway. I went a head and got two phones. Blackberry Pearls for free and with a free wal mart gift card and with free activation on both phones.
Oh the plan was under the family plan. it was suppose to be about $100 dollars total 700 mins, Text and so-called insurance plan.
I thought cool. This can give my mom things too buy like food and stuff. The first issue was that they didn't hand out any card to me. The connection center at my work said that they don't hand them out T mobile does. I thought okay. I give them a call.
The first idiot said, (customer service at T mobile on the phone.) "We don't give out the gift cards wal mart does."
Oh, and also my mother had a broken cell phone. The thing was from the connection center and somehow they broke it. But they gave me a new one.
Then I said okay again. And forgot about it until i received my first bill. It said $200 dollars. WTF? They had charged me for 2 activation fees. I called them right a way.
"Oh, sorry. But you are suppose to pay the activation fee."
"No, I bought this at wal mart. It was suppose it be free." I said.
Then fast forward about five months later. I took care of the first bill, I talk too wal mart again.
Then I still did not receive my gift card. Where is it? I asked. Oh, well you should have received it five months ago. They said.
And thing the first phone crapped out on my poor mom. She spent about $350 to get a new phone.
Fast forward three months. The bill is now $400 dollars a month. No gift card.. And my stupid discount is not in my account. Then my mom does something to my account where they put it under a flex pay. So that is taken care of.
Now then they told us, that there we no new bills. Just pay for the flex pay and everything is going to be fine. But guess what? lol. I had to pay again.
Now everything is kind of stable for right now. But get this they said that the 2 year contract is extended to May 2011. How did that happen? The contract is only good for first of last month. So Jan 1, 2010.
I get no coverage at all. So I'm wasting about $200 dollars every month. I get strange people when I call my mom. I be talking to her. Then I get Hello?
Who's this?
Yes, is Aninto there?
No, did you call my number sir? My phone is XXX-XXX-XXXX. Did you dial it?
No. The last numbers are 2020?
No, you have the wrong number sir.
Hey thanks.
I get those dumb calls every single time. Then it takes three or more times to call my parents. They have t mobile.
Customer Service has went out the window. Can't I threaten to leave or something without being charged
If T mobile thinks that there going to charge me there wrong. Please help me. I just want out or a better month to month plan.
First of all, the wal-mart
First of all, the wal-mart gift card would be a wal-mart promotion, therefore wal-mart would take care of that, NOT T-Mobile. Second, it shouldn't have cost your mom more than a small shipping fee to replace the phone, since it should've had a 1 year warranty on it. The discount would need to be put on IN PERSON at a corporate t-mobile store. And the activation fees apply unless it was a promotion run by wal-mart, which again, would be applied by them. So really your problems are not problems caused by T-Mobile, but by Wal-Mart. You can leave, but you'd be charged an early termination fee. Your best bet would always be to activate DIRECTLY through T-Mobile, NOT through a 3rd party retailer like wal-mart or any other dealers.
Sprint no longer drops "needy" customers
If anyone should be dropped for calling customer service too much it would be me. I have the Sprint Instinct phone and an attitude that I do not tolerate bugs in expensive electronics. I call them and complain all time. Just yesterday I called twice, and today I called to complain about the service I got from yesterday's complaint. I'd love to see my account terminated, and this news makes me wonder if that next complaint will be the one that will cause Sprint to divorce me.
BTW: I don't really hate Sprint, I just hate the Instinct and breaking my contract is probably going to be my only reasonably priced way out of this situation.
The Instinct/Sprint is awful
I have the Instinct as well and I HATE it. Sprint has replaced it twice now, so I am on my 3rd Instinct handset. I was on the phone with them asking if they'd simply replace my phone with a different model phone ( of equal or even lesser value) and they completely refused...no matter how many people I talked to. I have been with sprint since I started using cell phones and I have been pleased for the most part, but this was simply terrible customer service over the several times that I called. I am certainly leaving Sprint as soon as my contract is completed, unless I can get out sooner.
For Sprint to not try to make a LONG TIME customer happy so that I/they would stay with them, they continued to refuse to help and insisted that I just renew a 2 year contract so that I would be able to PAY for a new phone...one that I might like better that the Instinct.
Help with AT&T new data charge, what can I do?
I need help. Four months ago I signed up with AT&T. I purchased the plan and phones through the AT&T Premier website. Now 4 months later a $30 charge showed up on my bill. I am being told I have a smartphone so they are adding this to the bill monthly. I have received 2 prior bills and this charge was not in it before. When I signed up with AT&T it did not state I needed a data plan for the phone. Now they are adding it and saying I have no choice but to pay. I cannot afford this extra charge and if I knew this when I signed up, I would not had picked this phone. I feel stuck. Can anyone help? Please??? I called customer service, no help. I escalated to the supervisor, no help. It seems that the supervisor is the highest chain of command. Right..... I am hitting a brick wall
AT&T Smartphone, IPhone and PDA Data plans
I work for an AT&T call center and i wanted to help shed some light on your situation...unfortunatly for you unless you purchased your smartphone before november of 2009 you would be bound to the smartphone data plan if the phone is activated over the internet (if you do it yourself through your mywireless account etc) than the data plan may not have been added on immediately however AT&T has systematic sweeps that picks up on what devices the sim cards are in so it will know if you have a data required phone and it will automatically add this feature for you to help prevent high pay per use fees ($2.00/MB) and because it uses more data than the regular data "unlimited" plans ($10.00/$15.00) covers because of the many apps and functions of the phone that use data transfer in order to work...now here is what you can do in order to help fix your situation...
1) call in and explain your situation very nicely and polietly (if you call in yelling and cussing it is still our job to assist you but I can assure you I like most other reps will not go above and beyond for an irate or insistant customer , most of us will actually find your anger more amusing than anything ) and we can issue some credit for inconvenience -we don't like the smartphone data requirement either!
2) if you are in your 30 day buyers remorse period you can return the phone for a $35.00 restocking fee (most of the time you can get credit on your account for this ) or 10% restock fee on IPhone devices and get something like a quick messaging phone which only requires a combination of $20.00 worth of messaging and/or data on the line (eg. unlimited messaging or $15.00 data package+$5.00 messaging...you get the point) or you can go for a regular handset ..believe it or not they are more durable and have fewer features therefor fewer things to break, not work, etc.
3) If all else fails polietly ask for a supervisor if a supervisor cannot get you either another phone or at least find a solution for you to save money on your plan and other features to compensate for the data requirement then you can actually escalate above the superviosr and also lodge a complaint through the "contact us" link at www.att.com which actually goes to a higher level of management at AT&T itself not at the call center where the manager works
the main point is the nicer and more polite you are the better you will be treated and the farther we will go to try to find a solution for you...on this point i think i speak for all carriers customer service reps and also keep in mind we hate ETF's feature requirements and other things that generally do nothing but piss people off and make us have a shitty day and if you can control your self and have a positive demeanor you'd be shocked at what we can do to help you and how happy we are to do it ~M.
phone charges
I just signed on with Wow Mobile--if I refer 3 people, my service is free--unlimited cell, text, data transfer and internet. Otherwise, it's capped at $89.95 month. I just get a SIM card from them and slip it in my phone! I figure once I refer 3 people, I will make upthat cancellation charge asap. email me if you want more info: wowmobile2010@comcast.net
Do a phone swap with someone.
Do a phone swap with someone. There is always someone looking to upgrade their phone. You could also sell yours on ebay and buy another. Its a lot of options with AT&T sense they use the chip. You can always go to wal mart and buy one of the minute phones, the chip works in it.
Read carefully...
If you are not happy with your phone provider....got burned??? charges just keep on popping out from nowhere???/ then it is simple......drop them like a rotten tomatoes!!!!! I repeat drop drop drop!
Steps on how to drop the bastards!!!
first step...turn off the cell and forget it existed!!!
second... run to the nearest walmart or radioshack and buy yourself a very cute virginmobile phone and a top up card. Its soo easy the caveman can do it.
third....hmm live in a stressfree life.
buffalo wings anyone???
nokia n900
please keep me updated with the sprint account!
Nokia n900
nice post guys!
Get them to pay you a cancelation fee!
Whatever your reason to cancel just stick to it and file a small claims lawsuit fo $7. Within a week they will say keep the phone, cancel the lawsuit and dont ask us for service again-Be sure to ask for $250 (or whatever their cancelation fee is) as damages and they will cough it up as well. The lawsuit costs them 1,500 just to answer.
small claims lawsuit
are there risks to filing a small claims lawsuit? wht if they don't back down? would I have to go to court then? how does that all work? I'd like to do that...but it seems there must be a catch...
Small Claims Suite
The catch is, just as the OP said, you can NEVER go back to that carrier. So if the next kick-@55 phone comes out for only the carrier that you just sued.. forget it.. just use your roommates because you are never getting one.
That's the deal, sue away, they have right to refuse (right of refusal) and you gave them provable cause to do it. It's not because of your color, religion or sexual orientation, it's because you sued them. Grats.
AT&T
Ok so my contract was up in December. I ported my business lines to Insight b/c it was so much cheaper... I called to check the contract experation date it was dec. They asked if i want to renew? I stated not at this time. At&T stated that they sent me a cancellation form by email. (THAT I NEVER RECIEVER)
The port went well last week it was all finial. I recieved a bill from AT&T. So i called and i was informed inorder to cancell they should have recieved the written cancellation from me. I may add this---I NEVER GOT IT.
So they stated that the contract ws renewed without my concent. So in order for me to cancel i muct pay the remaining contract. $20 a month for 35 month.
Apon talking with them this morning. I stated that i did not have a contract from them. The rep said he would fax it right over. Its now been 3 hours. what the hell am i to do. This is baffeling that they can get away with this highway robbery.
What can be done??? I need some help, bad.
What happened?
Can you update what happened ? Did they ever send you a fax of your contract? Did they back down?
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Why won't the naacp protect my rights, is it because my skinis to white? Isn't that racist?
If anyone needs a worthless
If anyone needs a worthless organization to protect their rights, they don't deserve them.
What is your problem, you
What is your problem, you ignorant obnoxious fool?
wtf
wtf
verizon cell phone contract
I noticed on my verizon bill that the 411 surcharge is going up.
would this be considered a breach of contract?
How do you find that charge?
How do you find that charge? My wife and I want out of our Verizon service so if the 411 charge goes up I want to have the proof to get out.
Thank you!
you find it on your bill for January
or need to know facts for january Bill. be patient and calm when you call. it will take more then one time calling =0)
also raised Federal Universal Service Charge... which is their charge it says right on every bill. And they do have the ability to not DEFRAY their costs to you. Verizon reports net income of over 2.5 million in 2009
Most companies have in their
Most companies have in their terms of service, that the rates may change and you accepting terms is you saying you are accepting their changing rates. Its lame but yeah, they cover their own arse
On the on-line verizon bill,
On the on-line verizon bill, Look under "my bill" then "need to know information". Again , I'm not sure if this is considered breach of contract. Still looking for information on that. Good luck.
It doesn't work. I tried this
It doesn't work. I tried this both on the phone and in the store. Both said no, it is not a breach of contract. :/
Its not really a breach of
Its not really a breach of contract but it specifically states in the Customer Agreement (bottom of the Verizon webpage)...Can Verizon Wireless Change This Agreement or My Service?
"We may change prices or any other term of your Service or this agreement at any time, but we'll send you written notice first. If you use your Service after the change takes effect, that means you're accepting the change. But if a change to your Plan or this agreement has a material adverse effect on you, you can cancel the line of Service that has been affected within 60 days of receiving the notice with no early termination fee."
These fees only apply to Charges Set By Verizon (also in Customer Contract). If you claim that he change has a "Material Adverse Effect" on you, then you have a valid claim. Have a copy of Customer Agreement with you any time you talk to these people- they will lie their pants off ;)
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good article, very well
good article, very well done
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Sprint adding surcharge
Sprint just informed me out bill was going up 5 dollars this to defray costs associated because we have a limit on our spending? So not only were we asked to pay a larger then normal deposit, they are saying its costly to have this credit limit in place. I called Sprint, and informed them that this was not part of the contract. They in turn said I have 1 billing cycle to cancel service without any early termination fee. So for @ 50 dollars(whats left on contract) Sprint is willing to loose a customer.
Can I terminate the contract
Can I terminate the contract because of this???
How I successfully cancelled my AT&T contract for free
I've had AT&T for many years as my cell phone carrier. I had no major, sustained problems until I moved into my new house. I started dropping calls on a regular basis and having one side of the conversation drop out inexplicably. So, I call customer service...repeatedly. ***IMPORTANT: I WAS ALWAYS VERY POLITE!*** It is not the person at customer service's fault that AT&T (or anyone else) has bad service; there is no reason to yell at them or to be rude. Every time that I called, I calmly explained the situation, listened to their suggestions, clearly stated my requests/proposals, etc. Today, I dropped a business call and that was that. I went out and checked on the prices of other carriers and made my decision to switch to Verizon. I called AT&T and told the person on the phone that I wanted to cancel. They told me that it would be an $80 charge per line. I told her that I wanted the fee waived because the service had been so poor. She told me that she couldn't do that, but she would transfer me to someone who would. After speaking to the second person for a few minutes, the fees were eliminated.
The Cliff Notes version: Be polite. Call often when you are having problems and let them try to fix the problem. Be polite. When you have made up your mind to cancel, clearly explain why and let them know that you have given them an opportunity to fix the problem. And finally, be polite - it's free and it never hurts your chances of success.
Lucky You !
Matt you most have gotten a rep on a good day. I just went through almost exactly the same scenario only to be told tough luck we aren't waving those charges.
We travel all 48 states and the service had been horrible. Dropped calls, no signal. Even in major cities. We'd complained repeatedly and had the phone replaced at their suggestion several times as well. The service never got any better. So about a month ago we'd had enough and switched to Verizon. Amazingly our problems stopped.
Being nice didn't get us anywhere. Today I even asked to speak to a supervisor. That got me a big goose egg too.
The saddest part is that he'd had service with cingular/att for over 15 years and they still refused to wave there $ 120.00 fee. I say good-bye and good riddens. I would NEVER use ATT again under any circumstances just because of how this all played out.
I'd have to agree Matt was
I'd have to agree Matt was just extremely lucky. I had been a Cingular/AT&T customer for 8 years and when I moved I received absolutely NO reception in my house. As you can imagine, going outside to use the phone all the time is a huge inconvenience especially during Chicago winters! I called over and over... never upset but nearly in tears because of this. They were anything but understanding. Over and over again I explained I didn't want to cancel my plan but didn't see how I had any other choice. In the end I think I shelled out at least $150 .... absolutely ridiculous.
cancelling at&t within 30 days by porting to another carrier
i just signed up with at&t service a few days ago.
im actually of thinking of porting my numbers to another carrier - now does anyone know if i will i be charged the $175 (or whatever it is) cancellation fee, since im doing it withing in the 30 days.
Not if you return the phone,
Not if you return the phone, if you keep the phone you will have the ETF
An ETF charge from my NEW provider to keep service?!??!
Here's the problem I face: I had Verizon (out of contract). I signed up for an AT&T plan and didn't immediately port and cancel my Verizon number. I wanted to compare to two services for a couple months before cancelling the Verizon account, and then porting the old number (which I've had for 10 years) to my new AT&T phone. Now I'm told that in order to port my old Verizon number to AT&T, I'll have to cancel the AT&T account, pay an AT&T ETF, and then resubscribe to AT&T which resets my 2 year contract, even though I'm not changing phones? WTF? I'm not trying to get out of a contract I've only been in for 4 months, I just don't want to pay an ETF just to transfer a phone number to a service plan I plan to keep with the same phone no less. Has anyone ported a phone number to an existing line before, or is it only for new service? Is there no sane solution to this ?!?!
Followup: An ETF charge from my NEW provider
Followup to my prior post: It turns out that the information I received from the first customer service rep was rubbish. I called back, spoke to someone else who was very helpful and said "No problem". The number port was done in 10 minutes with no charges or contract changes. Easy.
microsoft paint or photoshop
microsoft paint or photoshop or any picture programs and send it in. make sure it looks legit. the best way is to erase the whole
address and write it again with your name so that the font matches. when you call its a long process to cancel it. and they will tell you to fax the proof of residence to them and that it will take 24 to 48 hrs for them to contact you. but if you insist like i did.
http://www.DedreeHoyt.com
Say no to Contracts
Prepaid is the way to go - no contracts! I once had to pay $175 for early termination so I learned my lesson - never again! As a X-mas present to myself, I bought a StraightTalk W385 and for $45/month I get unlimited talking and texting and if I decide I no longer like the deal, I am free to get out anytime. But I think I'll be staying with this one for a while :)
TMobile lied or misinformed me into signing a contract
My wife and I had T-mobile pay-as-you-go plans and since we didn't use our cell phones often and didn't 'text' we'd each spend $100 per year for 1000 minutes.
Last summer we decided to get our daughter her first phone and we went to the Tmobile store in our mall. We were told by the salesperson that you couldn't text on prepaid plans, and since I'd already promised my daughter the phone for her birthday, I believed I had no choice to sign up for the contract with 2-year commitment.
Recently we discovered that we could text on our prepaid plans. I felt completely taken advantage of. We are 7 months into a two year commitment where we're paying ~$55 per month. That's over $1200 for the contracted time.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that we can't afford it, it's that we were misled into paying THOUSANDS of dollars more than we needed to. I was very clear on what I wanted but was told it was not possible.
I don't believe the contract should be valid, because it was signed under false pretenses. Do I have a legally valid point?
You probably should have been
You probably should have been diligent and checked out all of your options first. The contract you entered into was not under false pretenses, otherwise it would be invalid. Information about other cell phone plans or services does not have any effect on the contract you signed (unless for some reason you had a contract wherein that was one of the terms, which isn't the case).
Bottom line: You agreed to pay T-mobile for the service that you wanted. You signed a contract to that end, and you are still held responsible for that.
There are many different cell phone companies, and many different plans. You shouldn't have just walked into one store on one occasion and assume you wouldn't be ripped off. If you want to avoid getting ripped off in the future, then you should try comparison shopping. Walking into the first place you see that has something you want will not usually get you the best deal. I thought this was common sense, but I guess that it isn't so common anymore.
Also, BTW, thousands (which you spelled in all capital letters, like a seven year-old might) is the plural form of thousand. In your case, you are referring to dollars, which would mean at least $2,000. Here's how that works: $1,000 = thousand; to make that plural, we add another one to it: $2,000 = thousands (or, as cretins may prefer, THOUSANDS). Your total over two years, at (let's be generous) $60 a month, would be $1,440. This is less than $2,000. Here's how that works: $1,440 < $2,000. Therefore, your idiocy in purchasing a cell phone has resulted in a cost to you of hundreds of dollars, not thousands. At least if you are going to put words in all capital letters (like a chimpanzee might do, if he were given a keyboard), you might want to check your math first and make sure that you are actually typing the correct word.
Good luck in the future, and I hope that my words of wisdom make it all the way past the gunk and grime built up after years of neglect into your critical thinking area where you can hold onto it long enough to not get ripped off again by not even thinking to check with another seller of a competing item to see if he can offer you a better price.
Prick!
what a dick head!!! what a bang hole!!! You call yourself smart? get over it Prick!
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE!! Hows my
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE!! Hows my spelling for you ya damn prick!?
oh my
Big Man aka small mind, This is a place for people to come and to ask questions about Cell Phone contracts, it is NOT a place for someone like you(with an anger problem) to belittle people for misspelled words. Please act like an adult here and stop being a horrible, ego driven, angry person.
Wow, it looks like we have
Wow, it looks like we have ourselves a real McAsshole right here. People come to this thread for advice about cell phone contract charges, and the biggest paragraph you came up with is about how the other person misused a word by ONE letter. Why not try helping someone instead of being so condescending and making them feel even more helpless.
Oh, I'm sorry... I forgot the
Oh, I'm sorry... I forgot the question mark after my last post. ??????????????????????????????????????
sdfkjhaksdjfhaksjfhdkasjhf people like you piss me off
Don't make this hard...
You REALLY want out of your contract? ARE YOU SURE? Okay, here is simply what you do. (Dont know why all you people here in the forum have to get so angry at each other.)
If you want out of your contract first go to your carrier's website and look at their coverage map. Find an area on the map where they do not offer any coverage in the area and surrounding areas.
Next, call your carrier's Customer Service number and tell them that you LOVE their service, however, due to a job transfer you have to move to (blah blah, and make sure you have a PHYSICAL ADDRESS of your "new house" you're moving to. Google maps is good for this.)
The carrier has no choice other than to let you out of your contract with no fees because they do not offer service where you live. Simple as that. It's already worked for me with Verizon and Sprint.
Thanks!
could be harder than it sounds...
That sounds nice but i would like to add that with T Mobile, you have to have proof of the change of address, usually a utility bill in the account owners name, so you cant just say you live with your parents or something like that. You have to prove you moved there.
This did not work for my brother on Verizon
He moved to Singapore from US. He called before moving, and Verizon said that he may or may not see an ETF. If he does, he'll have to call back and resolve. Ofcourse, the ETF shows up, and when he called, Verizon asked him to send in TWO proofs of new address (utility bills, driver's license etc). He sent these in mail AND faxed it to the fax# provided by the rep. The ETF never got waived and he got tired of trying (it was a smaller ETF, Verizon was already doing $5 off/month into the contract).
Saying you are moving
I want to get out of my contract and can use another address in another country to waive the fee. If I go this route can I take my phone number with me.
Prepaid is the way to go!
Early Termination Fees suck! Once I had to fork out $175 and it will never happen again. Now, I'm with StraightTalk and only pay $45/month for unlimited talking/texting - an awesome deal. And if for some reason I decide there's a better deal out there, there's no early termination fee as there's no contract!!!
IM ONLY 17 AND BOOST SOLD ME A PHONE W SERVICE
I GOT IT NOT EVEN 12 HOURS AGO AND ITS BRAND NEW AND ALREADY SHORTED OUT TWICE AND LOCKED UP WITH AND ERROR MESSAGE. ITS A BOOST MOBILE W THE 50 A MONTH PLAN
I DIDNT SIGN ANYTHING AT ALL I JUST PAID 175 AND THEY GAVE THE THE PHONE AND IM PISSED NOW BC ITS A P.O.S.
I WANT MY MONEY BACK. WAS THAT EVEN LEGAL ANYHOW THEY DIDNT EVEN ASK FOR MY ID
You people are morons! Ghetto morons (redundant, I know)
1) A contract is just that. Sneaking around it by porting to another carrier doesn't relinquish you from the contract.
2) Turning a phone off is not a way to avoid a bill. You still have the option to make calls, you have chosen not to.
3) Boost is for homies - So is Sprint.
ATT is for Tech heads who want iphones and a restrictive, non transferable contract.
4) Ive had T-Mobile of nearly 7 years. Im 8 months out of contract but still with them: The term is called "floating". When youre with a company but no longer obligated by contract, you're FLOATING.
5) I know a way to cancel a contract, COMPLETELY, with no termination fee. But since I learned it, I will keep it to myself and use it for friends - I have and it's worked. I won't defend it, that would just mean I'd have to explain it. Piss off.
6) Prepaid is an option for a lot of you losers. Other option is "flex pay" via T-Mobile or a training wheels program called "smart access" where you can earn back your credit while earning respect from T-Mobile. After completing one year on "smart access" during which time you have never paid your bill late, you earn the ranks of regular post pay users.
T-Mobile offers 10c minute prepaid and a damn good reception coverage. Net10 is another company that offers 10c minute but their phones are cheap. Plus, T-mobile phones can be used as PREPAID or POST PAID (regular account) - it's based on the SIM card, not the phone! I've forgotten more about cellphones than most of you will ever know. I don't bitch at the Customer Service people...That's the main secret.
HOMIES: Lose the attitude or be prepared to pay full price with no discounts. Customer Service Agents (CSA) are people - bitching at them won't get your shit-uation resolved. Oh, and if the CS happens to be black...you're fucked. Not racist comment...A proven observation. Black people don't want to help you. AT ALL.
who's the moron?
Wow. Well dont you sound like the moron. Funny you are on a page for cancelling out of a contract when you dont agree with it... oh well. Some people have a very good reason to cancel. Service isnt what it used to be, problems with your account, your phone broke after 2 months and they dont want to help you unless you pay full price to replace it.
I worked at a T Mobile call center for over a year and it is horrible. i quit becuase i hate treating customers like shit and screwing them out of their money. I know almost all the tricks of the trade and even now as just a customer i find myself trying to get thru loopholes to get out of my contract.
You can be screwed with any service. Contract, flex, or prepaid. And im sorry, the black people are enjoyable to talk to. Its the indian people i am always transferred to. They dont even understand a word i say.
(and by the way, its not called floating, its just called month to month.)
you obviously are a racist
you obviously are a racist a$$hole.
1) you don't know if anyone who previously commented on here is black.
2) people who are aren't racist don't profile black people that they don't even know by calling them "ghetto" or "homies".
3)many white people buy prepaid plans also a$$hole.
4)I'm pretty sure there are plenty of black people who make more in a year than you do in a month.
5)I don't remember any "homies" having an attitude or asking for a discount; everyone, including black people have a right to complain about their crappy service a$$hole.
6) Lastly, I've spoken to plenty of white CSA's who didn't offer me any help.
P.S. Racist, I bet you think I'm black don't you.
I like that. Well stated but,
I like that. Well stated but, you need to change #4.
LOL you made black people look like they have work a whole year to earn what he makes in a month. ( atleast I think I'm reading that right. )
It should be the other way around.
Contract dodgers
Well Stated!
T-Mobile
I guess it depends on the type of representative you are. I work for a T-Mobile call center and as a consumer I find them very reasonable to work with. They are ranking #1 for a reason in JD Powers as far as customer service goes. I am not an easy customer to deal with so I am used to the Type A personality customers who call in trying to get out of a contract. I can guarantee you that if you are with T-Mobile and you live and have a utility bill to prove it, in an area with 1 or 2 bars of coverage they will let you out of your contract. This is because they honestly believe that staying in touch with friends and family IS important and you should be able to do so from your home.
As far as the ethnicity of the person calling in or the person you're dealing with there are generalities or stereotypes that often prove to be true. This does NOT mean you're racist. I take 80 calls a day and I will tell you that Jamaican women yell more than any other ethnicity. I cringe everytime I get a call from Jamaica, NY. I don't dislike the people more, I just dislike their problem solving skills. These same people are often amazing once we've fixed the problem. They are more appreciate than caucasians. Just an observation. Good luck everyone in getting out of your cell phone contract. I am trying now to do it for my cousin on AT&T. :)
Would you please stop
Would you please stop referring to black people as ghetto or homies... You really should not defend black people by being racist yourself.
As to item 6, how do you know they were white? Did you ask them? Couldn't they have been black, or are you saying that black people only and clearly talk a particular way?!?!
he/shes proving a point. not
he/shes proving a point. not being racist. refering to it doesnt mean you're agreeing with it.
and i guess i can turn around and say, "by asking that question about him/her asking that question are you saying that all black people speak unclear and...black?"
dont be a hypocrite
dammmn nigggggers
dammmn nigggggers
get out of contract
Hi, i'm sorry to ask but I've been wanting to get out of my contract for awhile now but am not sure how to go about it. My husband was in an accident and is now out of work so we can't afford this carrier anymore. I tried to explain to them but they said no. Would you please be so kind to email me and let me know how you got out of yours? I would be forever grateful to you! And I promise I won't tell anyone else! shawnajeastman@yahoo.com
i dont pay for shit // shit
i dont pay for shit // shit that dont work no good etc
kiss my ass big guy fuck u more will do that
You're full of s***
If you've been with T-mobile for 7 years, you've never had to get out of a contract and you *haven't used you're secret method that you and your nerd friends supposedly know but aren't going to tell anybody.
You sound like you're a CSA for T-mobile, but a huge dork that goes to online forums to bitch at people AFTER you've screwed them over when they called customer service looking for help - "homies" how dare you, racist piece of s***.
I just talked to a friend of mine who got out of his contract by calling customer service and refusing to grant permission to the changes of terms and conditions within the 10 day period or whatever as posted in another comment here. Try that. And DO be polite to the customer service people, they're not the one's who made the policies. They do know however of any loopholes that might exist and probably are a little unhappy with the company for making them enforce unfair policy and would definitely be more likely to help you if you were friendly.
Not the same as the original
Not the same as the original poster, but I love how you instantly assume that only black people are 'homies' and 'ghetto'... Looks like you are the racist to me.
Ghetto refers simply to low-rent housing in high-crime areas, and before this colloquialism it referred to Jewish tenements in WWII Germany.
If you don't want to perpetuate the stereotype that all blacks are indigent then do not assume that the original poster was referring to blacks.
Yeah it is. You don't have to
Yeah it is. You don't have to be 18 to get service for a phone that doesn't have a contract.
Alltel
Since I am with Alltel and not part of the Verizon merger will I be able to cancel contract if service is sold to a provider with less reliable service?
You are so full of SHIT!!!!!!!
The whole thing you said about kiosk stands are going to cost you more to get out of them is total BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You need to get your facts straight. I work at one of those kiosks and we do NOT double the ETF everythign is excatly the same. Get your fact staright.
KIOSKS ARE EVIL & SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTSSSS
My husband and I had a NIGHTMARE encounter at a Verizon Kiosk at the Glendale Galleria in January 2010. They pretended like they were an actual Verizon retailer, "gave" my husband a busted phone that Verizon NO LONGER SELLS, in exchange for a renewed contract. We contacted Verizon and they were equally unhelpful, obtuse, and absolute HELL to work with. They did explain, however, that the KIOSK was a third party and they WRONGED MY HUSBAND. I viciously chewed out the clown representative they sent us to at the Verizon store in BURBANK (and his fat manager tool), where there were a NUMBER of disgruntled customers for MANY reasons. The tool who took my complaint tried to sell us a crap phone for $175 and I dressed him down loudly. He told me to quiet down. I admonished him, louder than before, so that other customers in the store would hear the situation. A lady and her daughter came up to me and gave me their NIGHTMARE story of dealing with a busted phone they had replaced by Verizon multiple times and were trying to get the same thing again, but they were getting absolutely NOWHERE with this bought robots. She applauded my efforts. SO, MR. KIOSK CROOK IN A PITIFUL SUIT, BE GLAD YOU DON'T GET SPIT ON WHEN WE CROSS YOUR KIOSK AT THE MALL. CROOK, CROOK, CROOK, CROOK, CROOK. I can only hope the economic downturn destroys the kiosks.
wooo there...
actually kiosks do have a LOT of "back ground fees" that is how they make their $... NOT ALL kiosks but the majority. i am a research agent for att and spend a lot of time finding these kiosks to have them shut down. it is illegal for them to add costs to their contracts but they do it... more often than not..
calm down....
You are making yourself look insane with rage. Nowhere in the article did this person say that you personally do this... only that it is one, and not by everybody or every phone company... It is not a personal stab at you,so please calm down and realize that using all capitols and extra exclamation points is both grammatically incorrect and does not get your point across.
To port or not to port, that is the ?
Wanting to bail on sprint after 11 years with them. They lied to me just too many times and the phone itself is crappy. Should I let ATT port my number or just get a new number? ATT said it was easy to get out of a contract, but worry they are telling me that so they can just sell another Iphone.
port my number
I am in the same boat. Had sprint for over 10 yrs and now want to switch to att. They told me that they can switch #'s for me but am concerned I will have to pay $200 ETF. I have my recent bill where they are imposing changes and fees in terms&conditions section of contract which allows me to leave without paying ETF. If I call sprint to cancel, will I still be able to port my number? Just curious if you know.. Thanks!
Porting(transfering your
Porting(transfering your number) automatically cancels the line it was tied to, so if your take your number to AT&T and you are under contract with sprint, it will cancel your sprint line and you will be charged an ETF. If you call sprint first and cancel your number will be lost.
Sprint sucks
My boyfriend signed for a Sprint contract today. He had one before that gave him better minutes. The phone broke, he took it in and came back with a new contract and phone. Is there a grace period. He lives in Virginia. He hates cell phones but was driving out of town tomorrow for the day and needed a working phone. Which explained his rush. But noticed he is paying more for a worse plan.
Sprint is the worst company out there
I lost my job and ask to be let out of my contract with them. My husband is self employed and we are having a really tough time trying to make ends meet. I explained all of this to them and they still want us to pay $400.00 early termination. I can't believe this crap. I can barely afford to keep my home and pay the utilities. If I don't pay my bill they'll just shut the phone off anyway. So I think thats what I am going to let them do. Can they charge you every month if the phone is shut off?
Effective 1/1/10, the
Effective 1/1/10, the Regulatory Charge will increase to $0.40/line. Visit Sprint Ts&Cs or sprint.com/taxesandfees for details; also effective 1/1/10, the Sprint Terms & Conditions (Ts&Cs) are changing. Please review them carefully at sprint.com or on request.
It would appear that the regulatory charge that Sprint is choosing to pass onto you is connected to the change in T&Cs. This is important because the law states that if a company makes a material change to the contract, then the consumer has the ability to exit the contract without an early termination fee (ETF) if they notify Sprint within 30 days of the notice.
This is true, I just
This is true, I just cancelled my Sprint account with NO early termnation fees. They raised the Regulatory Charge from .20 cents to .40 cents/per line effective 1/1/10 and it should show on your January bill. You have to call customer accounts and tell them you don't agree with the increase and would like to cancel your contract. Be sure to tell them you were advised there would be NO early termination fee. Good Luck!!
Regulatory Charge
Does the increase in the Regulatory charge as of 1/1/2010 without our knowledge, etc.. give sprint customers the right to get out of their contract without early termination fees?
they cant help it u lost your
they cant help it u lost your job although it is really horrible u did and i am very sorry to hear it. options for u... have someone take over the bill, they can even transfer it into that persons name so it is completely out of ur name and ssn... drop it to the lowest rate plan possible... take all the bells and whistles off... and no they cant charge u any more if it is turned off but u are liable for the Early termination fee unfortunatly...
how to protect yourself
since he is probably still under a grace period to try the phone he can go back in and threaten to leave and port his phone # over 2 another company like Boost Mobile which has no contract limits and offers a $50 month 2 month unlimited minutes, texting, internet plan. Also this article mentions that they are not supposed 2 change your original plan. If he doesn't want to leave or cannot leave Sprint he can look online on craigslist or in the ads for used phones. Sometimes other shops that specialize in wireless service will also have used phones.
We got the best response from
We got the best response from a deals website Just saw this site San Diego MLSmentioned last Wednesday evening on CBS 2 News. They claim to be able to help you break your cell phone contract.
It wasn't that hard to get out of my contract.
I've had AT&T since 2006. Service had been livable until the Iphone came out and then I couldn't make a call to save my life. You could literally look at my bill for a solid 3 months and see only incoming (missed) calls; no outgoing (something I later brought up with the service rep while canceling).
I called AT&T and they suggested several fixes, none of which worked and most of which sounded like a load of BS. After a week of daily calls, I decided to just switch to Verizon. I didn't tell AT&T anything, I just ordered my Verizon plan and phone, ported my number and waited for it to arrive in the mail.
When it did, I had EXCELLENT Verizon service. For the first time since the Iphone craze, I could make calls. When I called AT&T to dispute the ETF ($175), they were adamant that I'd have to pay the fee. I carefully explained that (1)my contract was up in 3 months (2) that they had failed to deliver on their end of the contract and (3) they were lucky I wasn't asking for the $120/month for 3 months I paid for and received extremely sub-par service. After a few mins of explaining all the steps I went through to correct the problem before cancelling, the rep finally agreed to adjust the fee. Even then I had to make her say what she was adjusting it to. I wanted her to say I wouldn't have to pay anything.
I felt bad for getting a little mean with the woman, but AT&T had made a decision (Iphones) that had a consequence of leaving me and many others without service. There's no way I was going to stay in the useless service and I was certainly not going to pay them for canceling my contract early when it was their fault I had to cancel.
AT&T early termination
My husband and I are in the process of switching from AT&T to a local cell company (Cellular South). I was prepared for the early termination fee (we are about a year into our current contract and will pay $115 for one phone and $125 for the other), but what I wasn't prepared for was the fact that we will still be billed for service for the remainder of our current billing period even after we have cancelled our service and moved our phone numbers over to cell south. In other words, my current plan at AT&T is $115. My next bill cycle is 12/1 to 1/1/2010 and I am billed in advance. If my service is cancelled today, I would expect to be credited back for the days that I haven't used, but instead, I am told that there is no proration and I will be billed for the entire month regardless of when I cancel. In addition, I will be billed by Cellular South for the same month. Has anybody else come across this kind of situation?
advanced billing
advanced billing is something that is set up at the time of contract and is stupid.. but it is there so u have to be ware of it b4 u switch and what day ur gnna swich basically u are billed like an apt... u pay at teh beginning of the month and if u decide to move out early it is up to u but... they dont give u that $ back for the week early u CHOse to move out
AT&t Is a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My daughter moved to Kansas for college and has no coverage. I have 5 phones on my plan. I tried to get out of the contract for 2 of the 5 phones because of no coverage. The only way out of the contract for the two phones is to show a utility bill in my name from kansas. What the Fuc its a damn college. they wouldn't take the colleges word for proof of residency. It only takes $710.00 to cancel all 5 phones. They would rather lose $2400.00 a year from a customer, then end 2 contracts. Thanks AT&T i'll go To Sprint or Verizon.
T-Mobile SUCKS - DOWNGRADE PLAN UNTIL CONTRACT RUNS OUT - HOW TO
Wanted to get out of contract. Didn't want to pay $200. Since I only have 4 months to go, I did the math.
$39.99 plan with 9.99 ulimited text plus taxes = $58 a month. So: $58 x 4mo's = 232
$200 cancel is cheaper.
Downgrade plan to cheapest option and remove unlimited text = to go down to $29.99 they would do this if I paid a "downgrade fee" of $35. WTF? so that is: $29.99 (cheaper plan minus texting) with the $35 "downgrade fee" plus taxes and normal fess which is now: $29.99 + $8 taxes for last 4 months = $151.96
BUT! I didn't like that either and so they sent me to "Customer Loyalty Dept." who said they could hit rock bottom at $19.99 a month, plus tax and would waive the "downgrade fee" of $35. So now that is: $19.99 + $6 tax X 4 months = $103.96
Now that my texts are shut off at TMobile and my plan was down to $19.99 a month, i just turned off the phone and will cancel on my end of contract date.
So, I got Straight Talk at Wal Mart (hands down cheapest way to get plenty of talk, text, picture text, and 30 Internet). Simple to do and save TONS of cash!! Over $300 saved per year even with the $100 phone I bought. Although they have some for $39, $79, and $99.
I SPENT A WHOLE DAY COMPARING EVERY SINGLE NETWORK AND PLAN AND PREPAID VS CONTRACT AND NO CONTRACT, ETC.
you cannot get anything cheaper and more fair than STRAIGHT TALK !!!!! VERY VERY HAPPY CUSTOMER!
No ETF when cancelling withing 30 days of contract expiration?
That is what I was told by a Sprint representative by chat but I still find it risky to cancel. Especially since the copy of the conversation sent to my e-mail was missing all the numbers like dates and amounts of money. There was asterisks instead where we typed numbers.
Has anyone heard of this 30 day thing?
Thank you!
u can cancel within 30 days
u can cancel within 30 days but have them put it to cancel on that day...
Sprint is ridiculous! Their
Sprint is ridiculous! Their customer service sucks and I am on a mission to get out of my contract without paying. I have actually already switched my number over and will be getting my new phone today but I refuse to pay them another cent! I have had so many problems and I kept calling and they were like "uh uhh well... umm" Yeah no help at all! Then when my phone completely just shut down I was given two options: Go to a store to see if they are able to fix it or wait till the 1st so I can get a $150 discount and extend my contract for 2 more years in order to get a new phone. Neither was going to work for me. I'm going to start emailing sprint and calling and chatting and hopefully after bothering their lives they will let me out without charge!
if u switched ur # u are
if u switched ur # u are screwd bc that cancels ur contract and will charge u the etf... no going back now
I replied, "I accepted
I replied, "I accepted the credit but was NEVER told it was for contract renewal."
Call your provider and tell
Call your provider and tell them that you are moving abroad. Make sure you say that you are moving to a country where they do not offer serivce (dont tell verizon you are moving to Puerto Rico or Canada). Tell them you found a new job and won't be back.
Tell them that you are moving to portugal, spain, france, England, argentina, or something like that. Europe or South america work the best.
T-Mobile: Don't say anywhere in Europe. Say a country in South America.
Verizon: Don't say Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, or any country that offers Vodafone. Say you are moving to South America (best bet)
Sprint: Anywhere except maybe canada
AT&T: Any country other than canada.
Virgin Mobile: Don't say anywhere in Europe or Asia.
US Cellular - Anywhere other than Canada.
any other company you can probably just use any country.
not true.
t mobile, you still have to show proof of address change. either a utility bill or drivers license. and it has to be under the account holders name.
sorry replied to the wrong
sorry replied to the wrong comment.
I made the original
I made the original post.
Telll them this. Feel free to send me a bill, just know i won't be paying it while I'm living in Lima, Peru.
Trust me, saying that you are moving out of the country. Obviously it wont work if you say you are moving to another state, because then they could just ask for bill or something.
It works, trust me. If you don't believe me, simple...don't try it. You're just screwing yourself because you are to thick headed.
if u are moving, for att, u
if u are moving, for att, u must show proof , ie a utility bill with ur name on it, and if u have an iphone u are screwed u have to pa the etf unless u die, and they only let that fly if u take the death cert into a store
Splendid Idea
Nothing like encouraging someone flat out lie to get what you want. Gotta Love the Freedoms we have in America.
Well I'm not saying lie. I
Well I'm not saying lie.
I used this with Verizon while living in Peru for a 1 month. I called verizon and said "I'm moving to Peru"....I just didn't say for how long.
I mean living with a family and working with orphans and poor kids teaching english qualifies as "living"...rite?
are you completey stupid?
are you completey stupid? at&t has the best global coverage in the world AND uses GSM technology which is the global standard. this would not be a reason to get out of your contract. thanks mr. dumas
I made the original post, and
I made the original post, and no I'm not a "dumas"...whatever that may be.
Just because they use GSM doesn't mean diddly-shit. Vodafone uses GSM, but they still don't have service in the Phillipines. You need a vodafone tower in order to recieve vodafone service.. same for any network regardless of GSM or CDMA.
Tell them this. Feel free to send me a bill, just know i won't be paying it while I'm living in Lima, Peru.
Trust me, saying that you are moving out of the country will work. Obviously it wont work if you say you are moving to another state, because then they could just ask for bill or something.
It works, trust me. If you don't believe me, simple...don't try it. You're just screwing yourself because you are to thick headed to listen to anyone.
Keep up the good work "dumas"... I mean dumb-ass.
Okinawa
Actually No Cell phones in Okinawa work unless you have an Okinawan cell phone company *ie softbank or docomo. FYI. Verizon and AT&T will tell you they work in Japan but trust me i lived in Okinawa Japan and the phones dont work.
Sprint will do this also.
I moved to Guam on military orders and was told that Sprint has roaming coverage and it will cost more but, they do have service there. After contacting some of my friends already on Guam I was told that there are no "Big" company brands of service there. Long story short I had to bring in a copy of my orders to be faxed over to the main office so that I could get out of my contract by proving that I was being stationed overseas.
Hey Name Caller. I think YOUR
Hey Name Caller. I think YOUR Dumb Ass opinion is uncalled for! Its none of your concern why someone else is wanting out of their contract, and therefore, NOT your PLACE to call ANYONE names! Mind your own business and find somewhere else to be a complete imbosol!
I'm pretty sure he called him
I'm pretty sure he called him a "dumas". That almost sounds like a compliment. Get it straight before you get all pissed. Note: I appreciate that you know the different your/you're permutations. And "imbesol" sounds nicer than imbecile. Like a spanish version or something. Good work.
moving to another country
Actually you really can use moving as a reason to get out, just because they have the best global service they will charge you a ridiculous amount sometimes to retain an American number. One of the benefits of being in the military is if deploying or being stationed overseas you can cancel any contracts no charge as long as you supply a copy of orders.
actually...
Actually, AT&T kicked me off my contract when I told them I was moving to central Nebraska (which I was). Since then, I've had 3 friends get out of it the same way. Global coverage my @$$.
I got out of an At&t when i
I got out of an At&t when i moved to canada and didn't have to pay any cancellation fee.
Did you have to provide any
Did you have to provide any proof of moving?- flight tickets/ local utility bills?
laws are changing with time
I have to agree with some of the visitors above that the laws are changing very rapidly with time and the suggestions here might not work
Got out of Tmobile contract today
I used your advice and got out of my Tmobile contract today using CellPlanDepot.com Many thanks for all the advice y'all. I would of otherwise had to pay 2x$175 for the 2 lines, which is like a dang car payment! I will keep my car lol
good video explains everything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-y3hPRyQcI
incorrect statement about all Kios
The statement in the article (Kiosks are 3rd party providers,not cell phone carriers) is false. While some are 3rd party, not all are. For example if only Verizon Wireless products are sold and no off brand you can bet it is a Verizon Wireless direct Kios not a 3rd party.
dont bet
dont bet, check it out before signing anything
case in point ATT stores are company stores
yet at least some 'att kiosks' are in fact 3rd party vendors, with additional contract terms
particularly, the contract i have has an addendum which stipulates that if I terminate early I will owe the 3rd party vendor a fee based prorated on how many months remain in the contract, in addition to any etfs from att.
the upside is that i received an additional rebate from the vendor, additional accessories, and when I had a problem, the kiosk customer service is way better than ATTs
GET STRAIGHT TALK
Hell i have straight talk $45 unlimeted everything from walmart it is owned by tracfone and runs on the verizon prepaid network which covers almost everywere. I dumped sprint as fast as i could and never looked back. I drive a semi all across america and have no problem with reception and i get unlimted everything for $45 dollars. i refuse to pay more when this option is out there......
how to cancel a wireless contract
I want to know what its called when a wireless company needs your permission to charge you extra fees and the amount of time you have to cancel service under those terms, thank you for your time and assistance.
Our Rights to Make
Our Rights to Make Changes
Your service is subject to our business policies, practices and procedures, which we can change without notice. UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAW, WE CAN ALSO CHANGE PRICES AND ANY OTHER CONDITIONS IN THIS AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME BY SENDING YOU WRITTEN NOTICE PRIOR TO THE BILLING PERIOD IN WHICH THE CHANGES WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE YOUR SERVICE AFTER THAT POINT, YOU’RE ACCEPTING THE CHANGES. IF THE CHANGES HAVE A MATERIAL ADVERSE EFFECT ON YOU, HOWEVER, YOU CAN END THE AFFECTED SERVICE, WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE, JUST BY CALLING US WITHIN 60 DAYS AFTER WE SEND NOTICE OF THE CHANGE.
If you want to cancel, simply tell them they you are entitled to cancel without an early termination charge because of their monthly administration charge increase. They will try to tell you that they are crediting their customers with the amount of the increase. If this acceptable for you, then fine, otherwise, stay firm and tell them you want to cancel without a fee. You will get transferred to several different people and it will take a while, but you will get it done
VZW is changing their 411 charge from $1.49 to $1.99 on Feb 1, 2010
Arbitration
I know when i worked at t mobile you could cancel if we (t mobile) changed something in the contract that the customer doesnt agree to, like raising text charges, overages, all that good stuff.
but you cant just simply say, "i see the 411 rate has been increased, ive never used 411 but im going to use that to get out of my contract." thats not gonna work. you have to show that it has inconvenienced you.
if you have a rate plan you often have overages on but are ok with paying the small fee, you might get a huge bill with the same amount of minutes because your plans overages were increased. (going from 20 cents a minute to 45 cents a minute is a huge difference) and not wanting to sign another contract for a better plan is understandable when they're the ones that increased the rates.
At t mobile you have to have an example like this happen to your account at least 2 months in a row for them to let you out of your contract. you might have to fight a little because a rep is going to try for the life of them to convince you to stay. just ask for a supervisor.
not eveyone knows this and it sounded like a good place so i hope it helps someone that might have this problem. (or if you want to cancel and theres just been a change in the contract, you might be able to use it to ur advantage)
Please date these articles
If articles like this had dates they would be useful. California phone law is rapidly changing, but even on general principle no one should post something like this without a date, as it's going to litter the internet for years to come.
The replies and comments are
The replies and comments are dated, but the article (the original piece at the top?) is NOT!!
they are dated
I love how you have the subject title "please date these articles" while right underneath every title it has the date...HAHA
hating u.s. cellular
they're expensive and not even a big time company. i want to switch to sprint so bad, but i've only been in my u.s. cellular contract for six months. i haven't had dropped calls or anything, so i have nothing to complain about, i'm just bored with their service and i want a new phone (from sprint). should i waste my time arguing with them, cancel my contract, or just shut up and finish out the contract?
running not Sprinting
oh my god don't ever let anyone else hear you want to switch to sprint so bad. you have just given them their new name sprint so bad, customer service is so bad, reception is so bad, phones are so bad, instead of sprinting, run run as fast as you can. this is not a JOKE.
U.S. Cellular
I have had some different services, and been around many people with other services. Many times they use my phone to get out. I have had U.S, cellular for a while now. They dont have as many bells and whistles, but the service is better than any as far as getting out. Very Satisfied with U.S, Cellular, but I don't like the 2 year contracts to get a phone, but I guess that goes with any of them.
customer service contacting me about former customer?
i bought a prepaid phone for emergancys and ive been getting calls from bell mobility asking to talk to the former customer that had the number, they left messages saying to contact them about a ugent matter, what should i do? i
Have a chuckle!
Go see how Bas Rutten, the MMA legend, treats cell contracts at celldefense.com and have a good laugh.
Imagine unleashing Bas on your cell carrier. It might be fun!
swapping cell phone contract
Hi, I swapped my cell phone plan using cellswapper and it saved my termination fee. It is nice to have such great service and that too with lot of ease. The best part is I took over a new plan at the same time without any charges. Thanks Cellswapperdotcom
hate my contract
I have sprint and all ive had is problems. I upgraded my phone and trhe i went to take it back they wouldnt take it back so ive had to keep its it sucksi t keeps doing weird tings ive been emailing a manger or something shes trying to get me to get a different phone. MY son has had 12 sprint phones in 1 year he hasnt even broke any of them either they just didt work right. The phones wouldnt send or recieve texts. Anyways Anyon know how i can get out with no etf i hate them i realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly want out to switch to tmobile there plans are cheaper.
Hate Sprint contracts....
The way to get out of a Sprint contract....
1. If you have a Nextel phone, call and get your number ported to Boost Mobile. But first, go and purchase a Boost starter kit from the Sprint store for $21.00. Call Boost to get the service transferred and activated on your phone. It can be any Nextel phone, new or old, as long as it holds a SIM card. If you have a Sprint phone, call them and get a Nextel so you will be on Nextel service. Or go to Best Buy and get the cheapest Nextel/Boost phone that has a SIM card and when you finish transferring all your lines, take it back. You have 30 days to do that. I have done both ways and they work perfectly!!!
2. You get $10.00 worth of credits from Boost on the starter kit. So just use that up and don't buy anymore minutes. Then you are finished! I have done this 4 times and most recent was in June because I wanted an iPhone. I was on a family plan with Sprint. I just had to do it with both lines. You can use the same starter kit and same phone for each line, just one at a time. Just tell them you want to transfer the other number to the Nextel phone. They will cancel the other Boost number (which was your Sprint number) to activate the other line.
3. No matter what Sprint tell you about the early termination fee, don't beleive them. They told me I would have to pay $400 for my lines in June because I transferred both lines over to Boost. I said ok, because I had already done this before and knew it wasn't true. Sprint owed me $157 because you pay for your service a month in advance. Do this as soon as your billing cycle begins to get more money back. If not, you have still gotten out of your contract legally becasue Boost is Sprint on the prepaid side. They must do it if you want to. Me and my son had Instinct phones and now we both have iPhones and love it!
4. Let me know what happens or if you need help completing this. I will find out if the other carriers do this as well since they all have a pre paid side, I don't see why not.
Hope this helps you, it helped me and I didnt't have my service a year.
Tell me if I got this right.
I have a Nextel I580 through sprint with an unlimited minutes and direct connect plan. I have about a year on my contract left with the cancellation fee being $200. So, all I need to do is go buy a Nextel boost stater kit, activate it transfering my number over to the new boost phone. Then, after everyting has been switched, the boost phone is still a sprint phone so there is no cancellation fee. Now, being on a prepaid boost phone plan, I can use up the prepaid minutes, transfer my number to another carrier, such as Verizon or whatever, and there are no cancellation fees so I now have a new contract with a new carrier and didn't have to pay any cancellation fees. Does this sound right???
Sounds Great but I'm unclear
My wife and I have two Sprint Instincts. What do I need to do to get out of the contracts? Let me know ASAP please. I follow what you stated previously but I'm still a little unclear.
So they have not sent you a
So they have not sent you a bill for the $400. What did you tell them to get out?
Hate Sprint contracts....
The way to get out of a Sprint contract....
1. If you have a Nextel phone, call and get your number ported to Boost Mobile. But first, go and purchase a Boost starter kit from the Sprint store for $21.00. Call Boost to get the service transferred and activated on your phone. It can be any Nextel phone, new or old, as long as it holds a SIM card. If you have a Sprint phone, call them and get a Nextel so you will be on Nextel service. Or go to Best Buy and get the cheapest Nextel/Boost phone that has a SIM card and when you finish transferring all your lines, take it back. You have 30 days to do that. I have done both ways and they work perfectly!!!
2. You get $10.00 worth of credits from Boost on the starter kit. So just use that up and don't buy anymore minutes. Then you are finished! I have done this 4 times and most recent was in June because I wanted an iPhone. I was on a family plan with Sprint. I just had to do it with both lines. You can use the same starter kit and same phone for each line, just one at a time. Just tell them you want to transfer the other number to the Nextel phone. They will cancel the other Boost number (which was your Sprint number) to activate the other line.
3. No matter what Sprint tell you about the early termination fee, don't beleive them. They told me I would have to pay $400 for my lines in June because I transferred both lines over to Boost. I said ok, because I had already done this before and knew it wasn't true. Sprint owed me $157 because you pay for your service a month in advance. Do this as soon as your billing cycle begins to get more money back. If not, you have still gotten out of your contract legally becasue Boost is Sprint on the prepaid side. They must do it if you want to. Me and my son had Instinct phones and now we both have iPhones and love it!
4. Let me know what happens or if you need help completing this. I will find out if the other carriers do this as well since they all have a pre paid side, I don't see why not.
Hope this helps you, it helped me and I didnt't have my service a year.
what about if you have a
what about if you have a sprint phone?
Im sick of crappy coverage, dropped calls, echo's, missed calls, and fubar texting.
Hahahahahahah everyone's
Hahahahahahah everyone's switching out of t-mobile.... right now. They're cheaper because they SUCK.
t-mobile
t-mobile sucks. my screen keep going all white. they sent me a new one and this one does the same thing. they suck im going to someone else
t-mobile
I have the same problem with my t-mobile phone, but they say our contract doesnt end for 2 years. but we got the phones already two years ago
keep in mind that t-mobile
keep in mind that t-mobile DOES NOT MAKE THE PHONES neither does ANY OTHER CARRIER. When you call them and they send you a new phone, it is them SERVICING your warranty on your phone, so complain about the manufacturer, not the carrier. I work at a kiosk inside of costco and that crap drives us nuts; "i dont like how they do this and that" which most of the time they are only SERVICING. Just like when someon brings a phone back for a defect and blame it on me like i built the damn thing myself
so what you are telling us is
so what you are telling us is that you are not qualified to build cell phones, but you build and sell them anyway? WHY do you build these cell phones if you don't know how to build them?!?
The phones aren't assembled
The phones aren't assembled at kiosks. The Manufactures build them. That's like buying a brand new car and blaming the car salesman if something goes wrong. Shit happens, thats what a warranty is for. You are a dumb ass
WOW
There are some pretty stupid people on the internet; you are definitely one of them!
Obviously you have troubles typing coherent sentences so you probably can't read very well either otherwise you would have read your contract before signing it. If your son went through 12 phones in a year then he is probably just as much of a moron as mommy and daddy. Go eat some cheetos and watch some more american idol you waste of air...
Capitalization
You forgot to capitalize American Idol and Cheetos.
Re: WOW
U are an idiot. Not only that, you are ignorant. This is here for people to express their opinions & you seem like you have a stick up your a** because you don't like what someone is saying. Be gone pissant!
Swap into a short term contract
U can visit cellswapper.com they are provide facilities to Swap out of your cell phone plan without paying the termination fees. Sell your phone contract and save your contract termination fee. Get latest phones with exclusive short-term contracts.
stolen at&t phone...
My phone was stolen and i reported it. Also hve a police report. Is there any way i can cancel my contract since my phone was stolen? I'm on my parents family plan as an add on and don't want to trouble them any, but was thinking of pushing it with at&t. Anyone have any experience with stolen phones and contrct cancelations resulting from them?
the best thing you can do is
the best thing you can do is be honest. admit you sold the phone to get quick money for your meth fix. admit you filed a false police report. if you need money in the future, selling your body is the best way for some quick cash. plus, you won't have to lie to your parents or the police about it.
I bet your mom is ashamed!!
GOD There is some rude ass people on here! The kid told his story in a damn anonymous forum. What reason would he have to lie!? Get up off your lazy, non-workin ass, quit stealing Internet from your trailer park living neighbors, go wash your mouth out with soap, get a job so the taxes I pay will go to a usefull cause other than your welfare check, and stop harassing a poor kid online whos just trying to ask a question. GEESE, Its people like you who bring shame to our country!
Moving abroad and I want to cancel TMobile
I am moving to the UK for school and want to cancel my tmobile account. I changed plans almost a year ago cause I had been talked into a crappy family plan that gave me 2 lines but I still kept going over. I ended up paying $200 to get out of one of the lines and I DO NOT want to pay that again to cancel my service. Has any body had experience with this? Thnx
Cancelling t-mobile /moving
Asked to talk with the boss, ask if u can fax /send a copy of you ticket to provide proof of the moving. if that does not work then call T-mobile's corp care in seattle wa.
Cancel T mobile w/no ETF
Hey everyone i just canceled my t-mobile service contract with no ETF, I got a letter in the mail stating there overage minute rate was going up to 45 cents. In order to cancel with no ETF your contract must have been activated (or renewed) service prior to June 28, 2008 and you must have had an overage with your minutes in the past 6 months. The person I spoke with was nasty but I had all my info on hand like the month I went over and what the contract stated. It took me no more then 10 mins to cancel with no ETF.
You are recommended to
You are recommended to conclude an agreement in the office of the official provider and before signing the contract learn the terms intently. Usually the most gainful for the provider terms of the agreement are printed in small print not to attract the Client attention. As it was already mentioned in the previous post – one can sell his contract to the other person in order to avoid the penalties.
By vavilon7
How about just ignoring your previous contract ETF?
What are they going to do? Send the cell phone police out to collect? No, they're simply going to hand the account balance off to a collection agency and 'charge off'. Now what are the collection agency folks going to do? Send over the unpaid early termination police? No, you're simply going to tell these fools that they will never see dime one of that money and eventually they'll get the idea that your case is, well, 'uncollectable'... 'charge off' number two.
So, stop being sheep to these multi billion dollar corporations and transfer your numbers, an unpaid ETF aint going to tarnish yer credit score if EVERY other credit card, mortgage, auto etc. is and always has been on time and pristine. It's a phone bill for cryin out load... not a friggin HELOC!
credit rating
the problem with your reply is that the person's credit rating will drop dramatically if they don't pay up and their bill gets sent to a credit collection agency! Shame you don't know as much as you think you know, eh???
As a loan officer, I have to
As a loan officer, I have to tell you that the idea you're proposing is not the brightest... especially if you care at all about your credit. A collection account, no matter how much it's for, is still negative credit and will hurt your credit score. It stays on your report for 7-10 years and will do most of the damage within the first 3 years. I've seen peoples credit tank b/c of a $50 medical payment or a $75 phone bill... but who am I, right? I just look at credit reports all day.
...no they can just ruin
...no they can just ruin your credit rating and take you to small claims court.
Small Claims Court
The cellular carrier cannot take you to small claims because they are contractually bound not to. Like wise you cannot sue them. BUT the clause was intended for business contracts only - NOT individuals (don't let your contract fool you its likely not even legally binding). If you live in California article 17200 business professional code states that the FCC has control over rates and services, and because early termination fees are neither - they were never legal - REGARDLESS of your contract. Also - were you aware Sprint lost 31 million because of this? Verbal contracts are meaningless unless something PROVING it eve occurred - God bless the burden of PROOF. LOL
contract cancilation idea
I knew about the early cancilation fee for Verizon. I had two weeks or something to see if it worked. I tried to get reception at my home and couldn't. I bought $1000 worth of antenae equipment that the dealer sold me. Still no reception. They took back the equipment, but by then it was too late to cancil the phone contract.
I changed to ATT and got perfect reception. Now I want out of the Verizon 2 year contract without the termination fee. Verizon calls every day and demands their money.
Here's what I'm going to do: (I have the time) -- I'm going to sit outside the verizon dealer with a sign that reads "Verizon service stinks! Go down the street and get better service from ATT. -- I'll bet it works. I do this kind of off the wall stuff all the time.
Kenny
Tell them you will take them to court
Verizon, as every other carrier must sell services they advertise. Your not legally bound to the carrier if they were unable to provide service for ANY amount of time! 14 days OR 1 month. Do NOT let them fool you. Tell them the FAIR COMPETITION ACT allowed you to switch carriers with no penalties because it's ILLEGAL to prevent a competitor from taking business. Tell Verizon they are breaking the law and you will report them to the FCC and FTC!
Your welcome :D
Use Better Business Burea and any Consumer Protection Agency
Call your carrier and threaten them that you report them to BBO and any local state consumer protection agency, and the FTC for fraudulent and deceptive practices.
I did that to get out a bad internet cable service; and was able to get out without paying a dime. I simply called up the Customer Service and spoke to a manager.
I did the same with HP for selling a defective laptop that died within weeks of warranty expiration. Initially HP refused to fix the laptop; so I put it in $200 to fix it. Then I reported HP to BBO; within 3 weeks I was reimbursed by HP.
Congress is considering laws to correct the mandatory 2-yrs lock-in and other anti-consumer practices of the cell-phone carriers.
They don't want to get complaints through BBO and other consumer protection agencies.
some companies have f rating
what do they care...check out the bbb to see how your cell company is rated. I know
for a fact Tmobile rates F in the western us
Sprint Issues
Sprint sent my boyfriend a second phone, on a family plan, to try out. He decided he didn't want it, so he sent it back in the required time, in their packaging. For the last 1.5 years, he's been charged $60 a month for that phone even though he has called and told them it was returned. Now, 1.5 years later, they are saying they never received the phone. They will not help him. He has been calling and all he is hearing is "you signed a contract". Does anyone have any helpful ideas? In addition to this, he asked for the $99.99 everything plan. They gave him the $69.99 everything digital plan. He's ringing up overages like crazy. It is his fault that he wasn't checking the bills and didn't discover this immediately, but come on, a little help would still be appreciated. He now owes $427 for his monthly bill and overages. If he cancels, he will get charged $400 ($200 per line) for the phone he uses and the one he never used. That phone was never even activated. NEVER EVEN ACTIVATED and they don't see a problem?
did you boyfriend get a new
did you boyfriend get a new phone? you should get a new boyfriend. if you are between 18 and 26, send me a picture. if you are tasty looking, you might have a new contract. but no overages; i don't like huge girls!
yes there is hope
Well, I can't help with the fact that Sprint are being unscrupulous bastards, but what I can do is help with the overage charges. They probably won't volunteer this information, but you can purchase additional minutes in blocks. 100 additional minutes cost $5. I recommend checking the minute total on the line every 4 days or so. You can do this by dialing *2 from your Sprint phone. Follow the prompts to check minutes usage. If you are getting close to going over, call customer service and purchase a block of minutes. It has saved us hundreds....we learned the hard way! Hope this helps you!
Prepaid phones
If and when you cancel your contract phone, you can then purchase a prepaid cell phone and start saving money! With a prepaid cell phone, you pay only for the minutes you use and can use the phone to text as well. Since I switched to prepaid, I have save over $30 a month on my cell phone bill. I would recommend this to anyone who is in the need to save money.
Not really....
It seems that all pre-paid plans' minutes expire. Although the expiration period increases as the pre-paid amount increases, these plans still effectively have a per-month charge. If minutes are not added at least every month, the unused minutes, as well as "roll-forward" minutes are lost.
Not a problem if you're the "average user" (790 minutes per month), but if you're just looking for an occasional-use phone for emergencies, the lowest cost plan for less than 200 minutes per month is still $13/month (Tracfone), and limits you to that one carrier's network.
The complexity and terminology of these plans makes default credit swaps look like a picnic. One might conclude that the only real benefit of these plans is for people who can't get credit.
If anyone finds a plan/plans that don't behave like this, please respond!!
Tmobile To Go... if you buy
Tmobile To Go... if you buy a $100 prepaid card, you get 1,000 minutes (10 cents per minute).
I don't use my cell a lot, so that 1,000 minutes lasts me 3 or 4 months, which breaks down to $25-$33 per month.
Sure, I don't have web access or email, but I am not getting pumped in the rump with extra taxes, surcharges, etc.
I laugh at people who have a $60 monthly cell bill, that turns into $80 after fees, and they only put 500 minutes on the phone each month.
Uh, yeah really!
Prepaid is way easier and saves you way more money. And everyone wants out of a contract why get yourself in one and start getting bad credit. All contracts are shit and charge you more and more. My prepaid company i just pay 30 a month for unlimited evenings and weekends , and a extra 10 for unlimited texting. Its good only that price every month for the past like 3 years. and they have lots of others plans tooo
SWITCH TO PREPAID AND AVOID THE CANCELLATION FEES!!!!
Why go through the whole bother - switch to prepaid! You'll probably either have to wait till your contract's over or bite the bullet and pay the penalty, but at the end of the day you'll still come out ahead. With prepaid you only pay for what you use/need. No hidden charges and no cancellation fees. After years of contracts I switched to NET10. I bought the prepaid phone at Wal-Mart and it came with 300 minutes included. Each call is .10 and texting is .5. Best decision I've made. I'm saving more than $50 a month! Aren't these savings worth the switch? I think we've had enough of cancellation chains.
Can I hold Provider to the Price I signed contract
I signed a contract with Att&t after they bouht out my provider. I was told that the bill would only increase $5 and the plan woudl remain the same... I signed a 2 yr contract to switch from old provider to new (ATT).
I have had problems ever since. Constant need for adjustments, eventually my 'agent' was banned from my account - and I have been told by ATT that they will not be adjusting any more bills, and the bill is now over $20 more than I signed on for.
I DO NOT want out of the plan (they offered that for free) But I WANT to force them to honor the price that was agreed upon when i agreed to sign the contract!!
Do they have the right to breach the contract without penalty?
going in person to an att
going in person to an att store and offering visual or oral treats may be your best option. i have heard this works better in certain states than others, with Ohio and Utah having the best rate of success.
Know just about how you feel
I got at&t cells when i got my home phone and for a week i never got my cells an when they trun my home phone on i call and they said the fedx men said that he left the at my home on my steps infront of my home and i told them i didnt have steps in front of my home and thin they put a trace on them i live in the country and to find out they left them in te city about 20 miles from were i live and th phone company still wants me to pay from the phones i got tried of fighting with the phone company so i had my home phone turn off 4 months later and they still say i have a bill.
other way
Complain to the company, but do it the right way. When you call the customer service representatives be polite and professional, thoroughly explain the situation to them, and be patient. If this is the first time this has happened you could ask for a discount to recompense you for your troubles.
(By dom)
Want to get another phone!
I've had this nextel phone for a while now and my upgrade is August 1st. Ive have nothing but problems with this phone. My test messaging, internet, 2 way and calls will randomly stop working... ive tried to talk to sprint about letting me do my upgrade early so i can get another phone for free! but they keep saying no only $50-$75 off another phone and im like no... im a new mom and i dont work and the husband only brings in enough to pay my car insurance, internet, the cell phone bills, and rent. we only have enough for diapers and food is there a way to get a free phone without paying any money for it??
Sprint upgrades
You can go to walmart to upgrade your phone...If you are only eligible for the 1/2 upgrade ($75.00), Walmart will honor the full upgrade and you can pick any of the free upgrade phones that they have in the store...I have 3 phones and have been doing this every year. After you get the phone upgraded, call sprint and ask them to credit the upgrade fee and they always do.
dumbasses
cell phones suck dont buy one unless its prepaid and stop walking around on the phone all the time like its your security blanket jackasses
DOUCHEBAGZZ
Faggot your obviously upset cuz you are to poor or your mommy won't let you get a cell phone QQ
that makes no sense
haha. Modern technology is a security blanket? Give me a break.
Maybe we can go back to the old days of a big black phone sitting in the kitchen with a rotary dial that takes forever to dial a number. Or maybe go back further to the days where you rang the operator from a box on your wall and told her to connect you to a certain person -- that is, if there wasn't someone else already using the line - and it could be someone miles away and you could listen to their conversation.
What we have now is fantastic and is only getting better.
You are truly an idiot. The only reason you don't like it is because you're either a) too broke to get something good for yourself b) too stupid to use it or c) both
Modern tech
You're the idiot. Can't you read. Nobody said the technology wasn't good. Idiot--- it says you don't need to be in contact constantly. It IS your security blanket. You big baby!
you are right. some people
you are right. some people are on their cell all day without hardly talking!
the scariest are fat women in minivans on cell phones. they are the Death Dealers of the modern age.
What?
Who calls somebody a "big baby" anymore? Seriously, are you 8 years old?
wow you must be reaaaallly
wow you must be reaaaallly old to remember all that!
no lives
internet fights are funny....get lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! end of story.
How I got out of my cell phone contract
After fighting with AT&T for a very long time, I looked around on the internet and found a company that took over my cell phone contract the same day. I did pay about $40.00 but it was far less then the termination fee AT&T wanted. After doing this, I saw they also had plans I could use without a contract so I signed up my 17-year-old for that service. It has come in very handy when I took away her cell phone for a month and did not have to pay for service since I wasn't in a contract. I just looked them up and here is the link http://www.wirelesswithout.com I only used them after exhausting my resources with my carrier. It worked for me......
You took away her cell phone
You took away her cell phone when she was seventeen? I've never heard of anyone doing that.
Second, if you have a contract and don't use the phone for a month, you pay a lot less. So having a contractless phone isn't such a huge bonus.
taking away cell phones
I have to disagree. Having a contractless phone IS a huge bonus. I was glad we weren't in one when my 17 year old left for 6 months of military school and we didn't have to keep paying for her phone. And when we acquired a business that had cell phones, and none of them would work at our new location, but they were all still under contract, we could get out. Now my teens can buy whatever the latest 'cool' phone is (usually off craigslist or ebay) and switch providers whenever they feel the need because we use wirelesswithout too. Plus where do these phone companies get off demanding I use their service for a certain amount of time, even if I don't like them? Screw that, I'll make my own decisions, thankyouverymuch.
i despise cell companies, but
i despise cell companies, but when they give a new customer a $500 phone for $50 or even free, they need to make money back.
that being said, when they deliver lousy services, it should be easier to leave the service.
the best thing to do is buy your phone outright, then go month-to-month with a cell company, so if their service sucks, you can move on. but remember, you will pay a lot more for the phone when you buy it outright than when you sign a contract with a cell company.
jejeje
There are all kinds of ways to get out of contracts and payments with suspensions and such due to military activity. Now, if it was Joe Redneck's Armee Kamp for Dumb Kids then it wouldn't qualify.
Armee
How is "Joe Redneck's Armee Kamp for Dumb Kids" different than any branch of US military???
wake up
Because any other branch of the service out there is protecting your right to be an ass every day. And we will continue to do it while oblivious sacks like yourself try to degrade us. Maybe you dont understand that we risk our lives for your freedom and safety? Constantly at risk of leaving our families without mothers. fathers.brothers.sisters. I guess what I am trying to say is, thanks for the appreciation ass hole.
No branch of military is
No branch of military is protecting your freedom. That is the most ridiculous statement ever and it's always being proposed by someone in one of those services. Your freedom is protected by mutual assurance not by some standing army. Joe Schmoe on the front line is NOT protecting you from anything. He is doing what he is told to do regardless of the consenquences.
You were NOT drafted, so don't bother offering your potential sacrifice as some sort of debt owed by us to you. You selected that career, don't ask me to thank you for your choice. You behave as though you are keeping others in this country safe. Well you're not. If anything your blind obedience is threatening the citizens of your country because you follow orders without first questioning whether they are justified.
If and when the time comes to join the military to directly combat the known enemy AND IF I consider that combat to be just, then I will join and fight along side my brothers to defeat our common enemy. I will do this without any expectation of grattitude and happily accept anyone's criticism for my choice.
Canceling an unlimited family plan with t-mobile
I have been a loyal customer with t-mobile now for five years and have been trying to get out of this contract for about a year now. Speaking of which this is a three line plan that is completely unlimited. There are not really any changes to my account other than the usage charges as well as the listing; other charges which is completely different every month and i have paper copies to prove it. Does this apply to the "materially adverse" clause or is there anything else i can do to get out? I have been noticing a decrease in my coverage and i can't even use my phone inside my own home now, I have been there for six years so i highly doubt it has anything to do with the home. Someone please offer me some assistance here because this is driving me nuts, and i've had it, I WANT SOME BUTTS!
why the big lie? you say you
why the big lie? you say you have been a "loyal customer" for 5 years, but then you say you have been trying to get out of the contract for the past year.
be honest. tell us, "I was a loyal customer a year ago for a 4 year period, but have spent the last year as a customer whose loyalty wavered. Lo, these days, know not wherein my loyalties shall lie, but hath with Ye Olde T-mobile no longer do my passions reside."
Stop the lies!
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