AT&T Mobility (aka Cingular) Billing Dispute

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ATT&T Contract Dispute

Hello All,

Sorry to hear all the misunderstandings. I had a similar event happen to me. I deployed to Iraq last year and used the military disconnection program. The outsource rep in India told me that I did not need to send a copy of my deployment orders or have to pay anything since my bill was current. A year later, I try to connect a new service and was told that I could not due to a collection on my account. I have been billed &375 for $175 disconnection fee plus late fees for 12 months. It took me 20 phone calls to get an American base rep, she took care of me. She gave me the fax number to their main management office that takes care of all disputes. I'll let you all know if it works. Here is their fax number: (888) 470-2270.

AT&T contact to serve small claim

Hi all,

They're charging me for Internet on a per usage basis while the phone connects to an email server every 2 minutes. The password to the email server is not even current so I never get anything. Phone was configured by an AT&T rep, I tried to delete the connection won't work. I canceled my data plan and I'm now getting charged per use. My phone is currently shut off though I'm paying for their service.

Can anybody share contact information to serve AT&T in the small claim court? I leave in the state of WA and while this information should be public there's almost nothing I can find on them. I think their UBI number (Universal Business Identifier required for a business in WA) is 601986747 but I'm not sure of even that.

Need an officer and an address.

Thanks much!

You can go to the

You can go to the wireless.att.com and go to device tutorials and find out how to change the settings yourself. OR you can have the service blocked it just takes a phone call. If you have a data device it is probably doing other things that use data such as autoupdating or maybe XM radio or watching video, or even games?? Add a block feature to the account and then try to do things you normally do on your phone. If there is something you can no longer do, but can't when it's blocked, then that is what was using the data. If you want to use the service, re-add add the data plan!

Too many people complain about how the service charges, and they think that they are not using the internet, but they are. Cell phone companies don't just charge for nothing, your device is connecting to the network for something! Figure it out and fix it rather than wasting time with court.

mail in phone bills for you to look at excessive fees

I have so many different fees on my cell and land line and I would like you to go over them. Received UCAN Newsletter but lost it and do not have address to send copies of billes. ThaNK YOU. J.T.

AT&T address to serve small claim

Hi all,

They're charging me for Internet on a per usage basis while the phone connects to an email server every 2 minutes. The password to the email server is not even current so I never get anything. Phone was configured by an AT&T rep, I tried to delete the connection won't work. I canceled my data plan and I'm now getting charged per use. My phone is currently shut off though I'm paying for their service.

Can anybody share contact information to serve AT&T in the small claim court? I leave in the state of WA and while this information should be public there's almost nothing I can find on them. I think their UBI number (Universal Business Identifier required for a business in WA) is 601986747 but I'm not sure of even that.

Need an officer and an address.

Thanks much!

UCAN's Address

mike-the-intern's picture

UCAN's Address is
3100 5th Ave. Ste B
San Diego, CA 92103

You can also call us at 619-696-6966
For email and fax options

thanks

$320,000 monthly phone bill without leaving the country

Beat this.

I use a data card with an unlimited data contract on a data 3g card. We recently upgraded two of our 10 cell phones on the corporate account and inadvertently used wrong card to connect again to the internet. Without our knowledge the bill continued to rise until we viewed the EOM statement and found the data was being consumed on the wrong sim card and rather than receiving just a monthly data charge of $60 for unlimited usage i have received a whopping $230,000 invoice. Despite all the phones on the account receiving data packages and a reasonable explanation for how during the course of the setup of this simcard there must have been some misunderstanding with the representative we spoke with etc. Our claim after 7 days has received a flat out no reduction and pay the bill.
I am speechless. I have read through this form and see no negotiations with this company and don't know what to do. naturally my job is on the line!

ATT vs. CINGULAR

hi all,
I would like to share my story here too....last month I visited to international country & got approx. $ 1000.00 bill.
Last month when I was in international country I saw my cell phone had auto find local wireless GSM network & I was able to make/receive local calls.

I went to ATT website & started looking for international options & plan details to make sure I don't get charged crazy...

I saw following items pre-included in my plan which I never saw when I was with CINGULAR -

a. GSM Coverage shared $0.00

b. Expanded International Roaming $0.00

I opened up ATT website for internation roaming details & noticed that they have written information as follows -

a. International coverage, voice, data details -

City - XXX
Services - Voice, Data, Picture etc..
Network - GSM/GPRS

b. International roaming charges -

Voice - $ x.xx
Data - $ x.xx
etc...

I interpreted this as follows -

a. My plan has "GSM Coverage shared" which might mean I can share same minutes internationally with $ 0.00 cost.

b. Expanded International roaming - If I will be in roaming zone of particular international country then it will be charged to me at the rate of $ x.xx

So here I go....I started using my phone for calling/receiving local city people (my friends, relatives etc.)

After 1 month I got bill of $ 1000.00

I have couple of issues with it -

a. When I had CINGULAR plan International option/package was not by default included under my plan - In order to make/receive calls in international city I would have to pre-setup & take international package in my plan (Makes total sense!)
As appose to these ATT folks made this option by default TURN ON ! So I had no clue that what will be the charges if I access it & overall impact!!!

b. As any other layman in this world I also interpreted using GSM coverage totally differently & screwed myself!

c. Why ATT can't send an SMS saying that you started using your phone Internationally & would be charged for $ x.xx per minute on my very first call !

My future actions -

1. Fight for it !
2. File a case if not get resolved !
3. Do whatever I can to get it resolved !

thank u all for sharing ur pains same like me !!!

International

I understand how easy it is to misunderstand how things change between compaines and how things listed as one thing and mean another. The issue though is some of it is common knowlege that international calls/roaming will be an additional charge. For example, home phone service charges additional when you call international numbers, and it always has been that way, so why would it be different with wireless? THe other issue is that people just assume and use the service rather than asking first and getting the details. I went to ATT's site and found all the rates and plans available. I do not disagree with you here regarding them adding the international call allowance without notifying the customer. This occurs after the service has been active after so much time, the line becomes eligible for these features. The features are free, but all they do is let you make the calls at standard rates. People complain that they were charged excessive amounts for the services, but in my experience, ATT has always been more than willing to add the correct package to the account and rerate the bill as if I had that discount package at the time of usage due to misunderstanding. They do send a text message when a line is showing excessive usage while roaming or calling internationally if they do not have a plan. This happened to me and if they had not sent me that text message and I had not called in and put a roaming data package on, my bill would have been over 2000.00! My opinion the charges are high, but that's why they have plans that cover. I have to remember that they have an obligation to pay the carriers we are roaming on. The best thing to do to avoid the hassle is call and get the information first or look it up online, then you are covering yourself before the charges occur.

I've worked for AT&T

I've worked for AT&T wireless as a rep for 6 months now. Yeah, reps are often too lazy or rude, but that all starts from the way the customers act.
Some points to share
a) When something like this happens, I automatically switch to asshole mode:
Me: Thank you for calling the new At&t 'bout your wireless service, my name is xxx, who am I speaking with?
Cust: Why my bill is too high? I only use it for emergencies, when it was Cingular I have had no problems... bla bla bla
This bugs me and buggs all of the reps, please be polite enough to answer the questions of your name, your phone number, the accounts holders name (even if you are) and the last four digits of the SSN/Password of the account

b) Complains like "I was told in the store that..." piss us badly, you people sign a paper. The contract has tiny letters? Well yeah, but thats not our problem if you don read 'em

c) The truth is, reps can give adjustment for up to $250 including taxes, 1000 rollover minutes, supervisores can give $400 including taxes and 4000 rollover minutes, anything greater than that will be escalated and you'll be called back

d) At&t is highly commited to quality, thus having regular call-monitoring, plus the chance for the customers to qualify the service after the call (Post call survey, PCS), or random-selected calls were 2 things are considered: First Call Resolution and Total resolution. A rep who gets a bad PCS or doesnt get a FCR gets suspended and in some cases fired. This doesnt mean that there are not bad agents, all of us have done things the wrong way, but again; it depends the 95% of the time by the way you customers threat us

e) When you have something that has been pissing you off like your cell phone working poorly, high amount bills or something, contact customer care and say the words "I want to cancel" even if you have an early termintation fee, if you are good enough to the company you will be transfered to a saveteam that will make you LOTS of offers, from exclusives price plans, to adjustments or new equipment, in case the customer care rep takes your cancellation request... well, that means you are nothing for the company

For now I think it will be all, coming back from a 8-hour shift, speaking to customers that don't even know how to get a prorated charge is kind of annoying

As an addition: f) All

As an addition:

f) All activations or equipment upgrades have a fee, regardless that you pay or not for the price of equipment, Activations are 36 for primary lines and 26 for additionals, and the upgrade fee is 18, if you are told in store that none of this will ocurr, ASK FOR A WRITTEN COPY of this offer, for the 50-60 calls a day I got more then 5 where the customer was told in store that one of this will appear, an obvious scam from the salesman to get his compensation that us (customer care) have to deal with

Fewest dropped calls?? Hah!

Fewest dropped calls??? Hah. A 2 minute conversation requires me to dial the same number 5 or 6 times using up minutes. When I complained, they told me that they had excellent coverage in my area!!

After several months of high bills, despite rollover minutes, and getting nowhere with customer disservice, i finally gave up and let them shut the phone off.

Charge me for WHAT?!

The other weekend I went in two the store to upgrade my phone and extend my contract. Well within the last year, I moved to a town about an hour and half away from where we originally lived so my husband could go to school. Anyways, I told them my zip code and the gentlemen thought he was funny and said oh wow, ummm well you don't live in an area where we have towers.. I was like my phone works great we have no problems. He goes well here is the deal there is a "political battle" going on because they conisder AT&T a monopoly and so they won't let us expand, so everytime you use your cell phone you use another companies tower and we have to pay them for every minute you use.. I was like SO! I pay enough each month and have been a loyal customer for 5 years plus.. He like well At&t is going after people who are doing this (like i knew i was doing something) and charging them $375!!! Are you kidding! I said well they can't just charge me without giving me a warning and he said I just did. So I said you aren't going to give me a new phone because you will get in trouble? he was like well uh yeah. I was like okay, so what am I supposed to do? I am stuck in this contract?! he was like they might let you out, the whole time joking with his co worker about the "political battle" crap that he thought was the best punch line ever... So I guess I am just waiting for a letter although I feel like tell cingular to let me out now. Has anyone else heard of this?

charge me for WHAT reply

its called EON...excessive off network...you may pay so much per month...but over 60 percent of the time that you use your cellphone is roaming off someone else's network...its kinda does make since if you think about it...you may pay about 100 bucks a month to the company but then att gets charged almost 600 bucks for your calls by another company...it makes no since to keep them as a customer..but they do let you out w/o your term fee

FCC ON WEB

FCC ON WEB

XM radio charges

Im shocked. my daughter subscribed to XM radio for one month for 8.99 a month. got the bill today for $4,500. it seems to turn out that you get XM radio access, but you pay the stream separately, at $10/MB (or about $500/hour) . other than the webpage is totally misleading, they allow underaged to commit to debt piling up to $4,500, the web page never indicates that the download cost is $10/Mb, the web page indicates that AT&T requires unlimited internet access -which she obviously didnt have, so its no requirement as they post-, im thinking on hiring a lawyer. has anybody experience with such expereinces? any hint helps, but i will definitely not pay $ 4,500 for having listened to radio for a month. tks//

XM radio charges

This is exactly what happened to me! We have only had the phone for 3 weeks and I got a bill for $700.00 for internet access, thinking it was a free trial for the radio.

XM rippoff free trial charges on AT

yes my one line got a $240 charge because my girlfriend didn't realize the "free trial" for XM radio promoted on her LG Line meant she would be charged for data usage. She thought it was like my sirius radio in my car and came from the sattelite.

i understand there is a warning but she doesn't use the phone for the internet so didn't know what that meant, plus english is a second language and not a perfect one for her.

All these pitfalls are ridiculous. It makes sense XM should only be available for unlimited internet access, otherwise its a ripoff on the pay per use plan. They only offered me half back but that was before I realized the charges came from XM radio.

hey matthew. i had the exact

hey matthew. i had the exact same thing happen to me. $4,700 bill!! dont know what to do. any advice??

Hi. for me it turned quiet

Hi.
for me it turned quiet good. At the beginning they denied my claim and requested the payment. I threatened them with local media and lawsuit, based on:
- In the webpage they never mention the price of download. it says its expensive, but now how expensive.
- as a family plan, and changes being made by any other line than the main line (mine) they are quiet sure dealing with underaged
- In the webpage they promote that the XM radio requires unlimited internet access, eventually it does not require as they misleadingly state, its good to have but no must.
-the webpage offers a parental control, but by clicking my zip code it says its not available in my area, you might want to chekc that

they called me the day after, especially concerned about what i satated that i would go to the media, and suggested to void the 4.5k provided that line subscribes to an unlimited internet access for 19.95 a month for 6 months (based on that the service was proivided, which i agree, and an unlimited internet plan would have been mandatory). I consider this to be a reasonable deal.

One thing: forget to have it solved on the phone, post a claim through their webpage, their agents are all dummies (and I mean it, i have 4 lines and pay an average of 1k a month in telephone service -much international and roaming-, i have each and every month issues with them.

hope it helps

Placed claim with AT&T too!

Hi. Yesterday my husband and I received a large bill, as well, regarding Data Usage. We originally reupped our contract with AT&T and got new phones because the old ones were crappy (we'd had them for 2+ years). On the new phones we saw that there were some interesting applications that offered 3-5 day trial periods, like XM Radio and the MobilTV, and there was also a handy forcast application. I thought, "well these would be great to try out and see if we want to subscribe. I had no idea that accessing these applications would mean that I would be connecting to the internet. If I did, I wouldn't have even bothered checking them out. As it was, it said free trial and I thought that viewing these applications would be free. Turns out the application trial was free, but not the ability to access it. I got charged for looking at them! When you click on the application, it says "MobiTV streams live video to your phone and will require a large amount of data. You are strongly recommended to subscribe to an unlimited data plan.." Well, why would I subscribe to a data plan when I was only viewing an application that I may or may not purchase, and have to pay for the data plan so I could view these applications during the Trial Period? So I'd be paying to look at something that was free on my phone that I may or may not subscribe to in the end... Doesn't make sense to me.

Well, got our extremely large bill (which almost put me in labor!)(to us, with only one income, $500+ more than we usually pay is extremely hefty) I found out that accessing the applications during the trial period really isn't free. Free is with strings attached. To view these applications during the free period, you must first purchase a data plan and then if you decide to purchase the application, you'll have the subscription for the application, plus the data plan purchase, which is ridiculous. Viewing during the free trial period is not free!!!

So I called the customer service reps and, I admit, was a bit harsh with the guy on the phone. Bet he wasn't expecting to talk to an angry hormonal pregnant woman. This is why my husband should have talked to them. He's more calm than I am...and not hormonal, either. But I'm a ''take action'' sort of person. Anyway. He filled out a credit request form and said it would take 7-10 days for an approval or denial and I'd get a call from the people who deal with credit requests once a decision had been made. I wasn't satisfied. I wanted to talk (and still do) to someone from that department to explain to them why I feel cheated and why I would not have knowingly and purposely put myself in a position where we would owe so much money BEFORE a decision is made. I mean, why would anyone? I called back today several times, much calmer and more polite, I assure you, and spoke with several different people regarding my issue and pretty much was told I can't speak to the "Escalations Department" because there isn't one and that the people who deal with credit requests don't deal with customers so I can't be transferred to them, and yet they will be the ones calling me to inform me as to whether or not they've approved my request. What???? How is that not dealing with customers? And then I was informed by the customer service representative that if I was denied, I can't resubmit. Well, if I'm denied, I'll have to contact the office of the president of the escalations department that they claim doesn't exist and go from there. If I get nowhere, then to the media it is I guess. I would really love to avoid the media, though.

Good news though, until they reach a decision, they won't charge me late fees for the portion of the bill I'm disputing, so I only have to pay the remaining balance and they won't shut off our phones. Since I know now that I'll be charged for any and everything I try to access, I haven't even bothered looking at any other applications that may be "free" on my phone.

Sorry this is so long. Good to know there are others out there who've experienced the same issues I have and I'm not alone. Although I wish none of us had to go through this headache. (And the customer service reps have to listen to us rant and rave about how wrong it is, too. You got to feel a bit sorry for them. They don't make the policies. Wish I could apologize to the guy I spoke with within minutes of viewing our bill. And he was new, too!)

I'm having the same issue with AT&T

My daughter called sometime in December to get unlimited internet services and instead they gave her unlimited text service...so she has use the internet part of the phone assuming she has unlimited internet services...now my bill is $3,842.00. Because she used it as if she had unlimited...they are now telling me they denided my request to make necessary adjustment, because they said she didn't ask for that to be changed, i know my daughter would not have used the internet if she knew it wasn't unlimited. I'm now writing to the Office of the President for AT&T, asking for some assistance in getting this resolved. Just like you said a $4,500.00 cell bill is crazy as is $3, 842. cell bill. please advise if your steps of help.

Thanks
Heart Throbbing Mother

Cingular xm radio bill

Whatever happen with this I am currently suffering with a 2500.00 bill. That actually sent me a bill that is due but I won't be able to view the data for another week so I have no idea what I am really being charged for, all I do know is I can't afford this and my daughter phone that they sent for a replacement had this free trial of xm radio on it.
Please help if you can.
Thanks

How to Cancel XM Radio Mobile through AT&T

mike-the-intern's picture

According to the MobiTV website to cancel XM radio do the following:

For Java powered AT&T Cell Phones:
1. Go to the main menu
2. Launch MEdia Net/Web (this will take you to MEdia Net Home)
3. Scroll down and select My Account
4. Select Next
5. Select My Purchases
6. Select Purchase History
7. Select the MobiTV purchase:
mm/dd/yy; MobiTV; $8.99 or Select Modify Subscription
8. Choose one:
Do not renew on mm/dd/yy
Stop now and provide refund
9. Choose a Reason for unsubscribing
Customer will see a Confirmation page

For Windows Mobile Phones:
1. Launch Internet Explorer
2. Select Favorites from the Menu
3. Select MEdia Net from the list of Favorites
4. Select My Account
5. Select My Purchases
6. Select Purchase History
7. Select mm/dd/yy; MobiTV; $8.99
8. Select "Modify Subscription"
9. Choose one:
Do not renew on mm/dd/yy
Stop now and provide refund
11. Choose a Reason for unsubscribing
You will then see a page confirming your cancellation

An AT&T customer can request to be directly canceled from XM Radio Mobile by contacting AT&T Customer Care by calling 1-800-331-0500.

I Hate At&t , my bill is

I Hate At&t , my bill is $279.25 and I didn't go over my mins. How is that???

At&t Screws another

After many years with AT&T service, We moved across country, went to the AT&T store and requested that our numbers be swapped over to the new state so we would have local numbers. The store clerk incompetently took over 2 hours to complete this simple task, we bought new phones, accessories headsets and chargers totaling well over $500, agreed to a new contract and they bartered for my rollover minutes which I initially had almost 8000 and they said they would give me 5000 but offered no explanation. Several months have gone by and it appears that I have 2 accounts floating around...one account that is new and legit with our new local numbers, and our former account that was appearently never "relocated" instead it remained open generating monthly fees that stacked up quickly. And to boot, they never gave me a single roll over minute on my new account. I also paid on both accounts simultaneously as we were in transition of moving and I didn't have the bills in front of me to verify that they were billing me properly. I have made 5 consecutive phone calls to AT&T regarding fixing this problem, each consuming more than an hour of my time on hold and explainging the situation. I have found that it is a complete waste of time to even try to explain anything to the person who initially answers the call, yet when speaking to "managers" who give their name, but have no extension or identification number except their "name" can not do anything either. With each painful call I have made to resolve their mistakes, I have been thoroughly assured that the situation has been resolved completely. Yet as each bill comes, it shows that I am further in debt...NO RESOLVE OF SITUATION!!! Now I have been put in collections for the issue and As of tonight once again the situation has been resolved beyond the shadow of any doubt and I should have nothing to worry about...well la di friggin da as if its all better now. This time I mentioned involving the BBB, the FCC, PUC, my lawyer etc and they transfered me to someone with a direct call back number who in 25 minutes tells me that it is resolved and he will call me tomorrow to confirm everything with the other departments when they open. IM NOT HOLDING MY BREATH that he will call again, instead I am carefully documenting everything because AT&T is stealing from me and they are operating fraudulently. What can be done to get AT&T to pull their big corporate head out of their big corporate Butt and start SERVING their customers with accuracy and courtesy and to repay people what is rightly theirs?

Same thing is happening with

Same thing is happening with me! They said my bill was resolved and now to find out it is in collections for $676. Same problem happened with calling them, that you had. They dont fix anything... its a big waste of time calling them.

I dont suppose you have figured out a way to get this resolved? (i noticed your post was from december).

Thanks for the info, I'll do

Thanks for the info, I'll do that if this last measure doesn't work. I am disputing the claim on my credit report and if that does not work, i will call the fcc.

call the fcc .they have a

call the fcc .they have a web site

Fraudulent Cingular Bill

I have a account in my name that is not mines. I want it removed, has not happen yet.

$4600 in wrongful charges by AT&T

At least we are not alone according to these other posts. :/

Long story short, in March 2007 my company moved our service to Cingular. We purchased 5 8525 phones & signed up for pooled voice minutes and unlimited data plans for all 5. At least that is what the written quote from the salesperson said, amd that is what we agreed to. We had a new A/P person who didn't question the bills until August. That is when we disovered that they put the phones on 4MB data plans resulting in $700+ overages each month. Should be easy to realize to fix right? Several phone calls - each time they say they "will look into it." Result? Denied. Faxed copy of original quote from their salesperson stating that the plans were unlimited. Result? Denied. To add insult to injury the "notes" in their system from the phone calls (to their ill-trained and uncaring customer service reps) are inaccurate and they keep referring to them as if they are irrefutable but somehow what we have IN WRITING can just be ignored. We have now been denied twice which apparently means that they will no longer even consider the matter. Maybe my letter to their President and the copy of it to the FCC will get a little more respect. I won't hold my breath though.

help

can we get president address for at@t

AT&T Mobility

I HATE AT&T MOBILITY! NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CINGULAR!

duh

yeah...you do know that cingular pretty much wrote a check for the remaining wireless portion of att...all they did was change their name bc it is more recognized.....same billing system...same towers...different name...its all in your head...think about it...did cingular require all 60plus million cust. to call in to change their account information and get new phones when the change was made...no...now look at the fact that anytime someone who originally had att is required to convert their account and HAS to upgrade their phones...

Free XM Trial BEWARE!!!

I logged into my ATT (former cingular) account this morning to pay my bill, and was SHOCKED to see my amount totaling $645.

I (for two phones) never pay over $100-120 per month.

Heres the deal:
We purchased a new phone for my wife last month. We got it home, and she decided to download a few ring tones. Ok great. Well, on ATT's homepage, there was an offer for 3 FREE DAYS of XM Radio. (free? Ok, great)... She used the trial, (off and on for 3 days)... then quit. No Strings attached, No cancellation Necessary... Well apparently the FREE TRIAL wasn't really free. It totaled up 44,000 msg/kb charges to our ATT phone bill, totaling over $500 in itself.

In my mind, this must be some kind of joke... it is completely deceptive, fraudulant, and outright insaine...

I have as of now spoken with 3 different ATT reps, none of which "have any authority" to do anything about this issue. One rep stated her supervisor was "on another call", and would not release his name, or extention...

I cannot get to anybody who apparently has any anything at the company, and feel as if Im just blowing hot air. Im guessing I am calling some 3rd party call center in Indonesia somewhere...

I did make a call to the Office of the President...

and spoke with a secretary there who has an "executive" looking at the matter... They are soppost to give me a call-back in 24-48 hours. So we'll see what they have to say.

This IS Insaine... Ill keep you posted.

you incompetent boob, xm is

you incompetent boob, xm is free. The service tells you that you need a data package to use it...xm is free, the internet it runs through is not...I'd ask which of you two, your wife or you is the smart one, but I know the f***ing answer already

charges

my first month w/ AT&t, it was $265.00, now I got a late payment charge for using 1 phone and it soars up to $673.00 and I don't know where my rollover minutes are.

your posting

Hi,
read your posting. i wonder if you could speak to the president. today i got my phonebill for $4500 for my daughter using XM radio, to which she subscribed for $8.99. im thinking of hiring a lawyer but would rather hear from other experiences first. tks// matthew

XM reply

edit:
apparently...( I just spoke with my wife further in this matter,) and she claims she did not even go onto the internet to see this offer..

It is an option in her "media" folder in her new phone (you know, games, pictures, etc... ) and according to her had no disclaimers, etc attached. I will be looking at it later after work, and taking pictures to post up.

She is not an idiot, and does not fall for the "typical e-scam"...

How are they doing these portable xm devices these days, where you can strap an xm radio to your hip and go jogging. I would have only assumed it had a built in xm-tuner of sorts, etc...

LG Shine had it on menu - so no warning?

My girlfriend got a $240 charge on the LG Shine access to the "Free XM Radio Trial" that is on the Shine's menu, not through the media net or web browser. Does that mean there would be not warning?

240 for free XM on LG Shine

XM Radio is built into the menu of my girlfriends LG Shine, others said there was a warning and I assumed she must not have understood it since English is her second language and she thought it wasn't an internet service but like my car sirius radio.

Would the LG Shine access through this link - NOT THROUGH THE Web Browser - not have included a warning?

XM radio

I also bought a new AT&T phone and tried out the "FREE" xm radio trial for 2 days.. I got my bill about a week ago.. and it was $972.00 .. I called and spoke to 3 different reps. And they are telling me that I cannot get credit for it because only the XM radio part of it was free.. NOT the data usage.. It is misleading to customers.. I do not recall anything about being charged for data usage if i used the "FREE TRIAL".. Please tell me what it is that you did... I am not going to pay $972.00 for something that I thought was free..

when you download xm radio,

when you download xm radio, there is a warning page that states that the program uses alot of internet and recommends a media package.

I was charged a cancellation fee

Yes, My contract was up and I feel one month behind during Christmas. Next thing I know I get a cancellation fee on $350 for early termination of my contract. My contract was actually up two months prior. So a $450 bill turned into a $795 bill. How does this happen?

because it is your

because it is your responsibilty to cancel the service after two years. the company doesnt care, they will just renew your contract for another two years. YOU are responsible for everything, they are just there to collect the bill.

your contract is not renewed

your contract is not renewed unless you go get another discount on another phone. NOTHING is changed to your cell phone account unless you request the change...that includes cancelling...that is less short of not paying your bill....in which ur phones would become suspended before cancelled

they do not renew your

they do not renew your agreement unless you request that. and in reguards to the original post, if your agreement was over and you were charged the early term fee, call and dispute it!

Mistakes CAN happen, we do not live in a perfect world. If there is an honest error call, they can fix it, that is of course if the contract was up at the time you cancelled.

rofl

Is this a joke? You need to study law a little bit! At&T cannot sign another contract for you as well as any other wireless carrier. This is illegal. Get your facts straight idiot

$1200 unauthorized charges to Honduras, Cingular AT&T =obnoxious

Somehow, while upgrading to an iPhone I lost a SIM card that was for the second line of my plan. Unbeknowst to me, someone got a hold of this SIM card and called 140 minutes to Honduras. My AT&T wireless bill for those minutes was over $1,200.00. I complained that I had accidentally lost or thrown away the SIM card and did not even know that my account was allowed to call internationally without prior activation of that feature. At first, Cingular/AT&T reps told me the "recovery team" would look into this matter and probably would credit my account. They were supposed to call me within 7-10 business days. They took 9 business days to get back to me. I first saw notification of the bill on August 24, 2007. I called 611 immediately and told the representative about the problem, and I had thought at first the exorbitant bill was an error on their part. She told me that the charges were probably valid but that I could file a claim for a credit and if I was a good customer and did not have unusual credits in the past that the "recovery team" would likely authorize a credit to my account. Today, September 7th, a full 9 business days later, they finally call me and tell me that the charges are valid. I am utterly disappointed in AT&T/Cingular and am reviewing my options. Should I just refuse to pay them? I did not even know someone could call Honduras (or any international location) without prior activation of that feature on one's contract. They really hate their customers and treat them unfairly. Beware contracts, beware of AT&T!!!!

140 minutes do not cost 1200

140 minutes do not cost 1200 dollars. the most that we charge is 3.49 per minute.

???

Feel for you bro. That sux!! HOwever you are the one that lost the sim card and it took you how long to realize it? Keep track of all my items daily. Good luck tho!

ATT drops my cell tower - no service!!

ATT just informed me I no longer receive cell service at my home b/c they no longer use the same cell towers in my area. They have offered to let me out of my contract at no charge to me. My contract is three months old and I paid for the stupid phone. I want my phone money back and any refund for service missed. And why shouldn't they pay me a termination fee? Anyone ever go through this? There must be 20 of us at my complex that are all getting screwed.

look at it this way...you

look at it this way...you just got a 300+ dollar phone at the discounted price...get the unlock code and take it to another carrier

Cell Tower

Alex, where did this happen and what have you all done thus far? What did the company say when you asked to end your contract without an early termination fee? You and anyone else in your complex should immediately file an online complaint at www.cpuc.ca.gov (if you are in Clifornia) and write certified letters return receipt requested to the company protesting that your contract was broken and demanding full refunds for service missed. In addition, you want out of your contracts without any early termination fees from the company and the stores from which you all purchased your equipment and signed up for service effective immediately for failure to render agreed-upon service. You should state that you were not warned in advance or at the point of sale that you would not have any service or coverage where you live.

You were given over a year

You were given over a year in warnings. a complaint wont do anything.

I believe the post said ATT

I believe the post said ATT WILL waive the ETF fees. The phone on the other hand, it's used now you won't get full price for it. Most likely when you upgraded you got it very cheap, so take the deal as the other responded and unlock it to another carrier.

Being billed for cel I traded in a year ago

I moved to Salt Lake City, Utah last year, July 2006. I had a Cingular wireless phone from California.
When the contract expired in September of 2006, I traded in the old Cingular cel phone for a new Utah Cingular phone.
Service has been fine.
However, I recently recieved a collection notice from AFNI for service on the old California cel-phone.
Apparently, Cingular did not turn off the old California cel phone service. Keeping in mind, that, for the last almost a year, I never recieved a bill for this California cel phone that I traded in.
Now, I have traded cel phones in before and acquired a new contract over the years. I have never had such an issue.
I mean, you can check the records on the old California Cingular cel phone and see that it was never used. In fact, I still have that old phone and remember turning it on and finding that the service was indeed not on.
So, I dont get this but, I did not do anything wrong here. Except pay my bill on time.
How can they do this ?

Now, this collection agency, AFNI, is attempting to collect this so called debt from me and messin with my credit.

How can they collect on something I was not liable for and was never notified of ?
Can I request the records for this old cel phone ?

I mean, I traded it in and I have a different cel phone now.

call customer service and

call customer service and explain the situation.

Fraudulent Cingular Bill

Please respond to the email sent to you and provide the documentation requested. We are able to assist if we have the information needed. For anyone else with this type of problem, you are urged to take the following steps:

1) Write a certified return receipt requested dispute letter to the collection agency. Request verification from the collection agency that you owe the debt as soon as possible. Send copies of this dispute letter and your proof to Cingular and to the 3 credit reporting bureaus. You can find contact information for the credit reporting bureaus at www.privacyrights.org, Fact Sheet 17 A. You are also encouraged to file a separate dispute with the credit reporting bureaus and to request a case file number. Your letter should request a written response no later than 30 days from the date of the dispute letter.

2) It is very important to file a complaint with your state's public utilities commission. For California, there is an online form at www.cpuc.ca.gov.

3) Even though the police department will not want to do so, file a police report immediately. You will need it to show you have taken action and for documentation.

4) If you get no response from the public utilities commission, the collection agency and/or the company, there is no point in waiting. Take the collections agency and the company to small claims court! Responses will come very quickly if you have to go this far. There are guidelines as to how to file and request court costs on the Internet for almost every jurisdiction.

Finally, make sure you follow up on all of the above actions. Making phone calls is a waste of time. Your hold times can be very lengthy and you run the risk that your conversations will not be logged. If they are not logged, they didn't take place and it's your word against the company's, the collection agency and any other place you contact. Fixing fraud is very time-consuming. But, the ramifications of doing nothing are far worse.

Anyone with a similar problem, please post and update resolutions so we can all benefit from your experiences.

service

I bought a Cingular phone and prepaid plan because I passed out twice this summer, and wanted protection..The prepaid service on the 351.00 cingular phone never worked. When you cll to complain some are nice =others like all call centers are ridiculous. I have not had help for 2 months . local store will do nothing. I am trying to recover from cancer. This is so sad to me.What organization can get me a working phone. I am prepaid for a year. How can I get to the top.. and get something done. thanks sik By the way I sent in my new phone they sent backa refurbished which was worse.Now they say its the sim card. Ever customer care person says a different thing read off a paper. This new A t and T is going under fast..belive me . it's awful .need help

RESOLVING CINGULAR - AT&T COMPLAINTS

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Cingular
First do everything you can to resolve the matter with Cingular:

* Carefully document your position. Be sure to have copies of your Service Agreement, any relevant bills, etc.
* Be specific and be fair and reasonable in what you are asking for. Asking for more than that will tend to be counterproductive.
* Be persistent, but always polite -- getting upset or even abusive will only be counterproductive.
* If it's a network or coverage problem, call Customer Care (611), and ask to be transferred to Technical Support. (Standard Customer Care personnel can't really handle such problems.) Be reasonable, and give Cingular a reasonable period of time to correct any problem.
* Call Customer Care (611), and ask to be transferred to Escalations. (Standard Customer Care personnel have very little authority.) Be persistent, calling back if necessary.
* If that doesn't work, ask to be put in contact with the Office of the President (actually the highest level of dispute resolution). Don't start there -- it's a last resort, and you'll be taken more seriously if you've done everything you can to work it out through normal channels. Again, be persistent, calling back if necessary. If you can't get through that way, try these reported contact points:

* Cingular Office Of The President
5565 Glenridge Connector, Atlanta, GA 30349
404-236-6000
* Cingular Office Of The President
1910 Customer Care Way, Atwater, CA 95301
866-894-2464

agree to a point

you would be surprised how much leeway a regular rep has...their is no need to escalate as soon as you get on the phone...all thats going to do is piss off the manager and you wont get anything...all the rep has to do if its over his head is put you on hold and get manager approval...and if you just escalate your less likely to get the same deal the rep could had gotten you bc the manager is upset bc thats why the reps are there...to help the customer

I disagree

When I spoke with a customer service rep about my issues, they told me that since the amount I was disputing was so high I couldn't get it resolved by a manager/supervisor and would have to have a credit request submitted either way.

i agree

Great post!! "getting upset or even abusive will only be counterproductive" Personally think everyone for once should have to work at a cell phone place for 3 months..then they will change their attitude towards rudeness.

at&t cingular

okay i had cingular for 8 years, i lost rollover minutes when i changed my plan i was also one of those that upped my plan due to rollover minutes, but didnt get to keep them... when i changed to a smaller plan, but that wasnt all at &t buys them and all of a sudden my bill is doubled i check it out, the first page states i have a family plan 89.99 i have a lap top card 59.00 okay i look at the next page i have two phones both are being charged 89.00 per phone plus the one phone wasnt even suppose to be in service when i upgraded i wanted a individual plan. for over a year i was charged 79.oo for my lap top card, then i go in to a store speak with a tech after waiting 3 hours i get the 59.00 plan long story short i use to pay about 150 for my family plan, att bought cingular my bill was 300, then 450 they told me it was a legit charge, i stated the one phone when i up graded was to be removed i wanted a individual plan and the data on the on phone there was none because it wasnt being used apparently the tech put in an upgrade on the phone and re signed me up for another two year contract... i stated no the two year contract was to be on the 2nd phone listed but under a individual plan.. after three months of calling stopping in stores i gave up i switched to verizon... now i get a bill from a collection agency telling me i owe 1176. excuse me att owes me money first of all i over payed the first month by 150, the second month 250, let alone the time it takes to stand around their stores 12 hours of my time, phone time waiting and arguing with them another 8 hours i make 28 and hour=960.00 plus the aggravation i dont owe them nothing.

Tony please send my any info

Tony please send my any info regarding the outcome of your case. i am also in the same situation.

Thieves

Thieves!

Has anyone ever seen a $48,797.09 phone bill from ATT ????

I recently went to Mexico for 5 days and of course brought my Cingular 8525 with me. A few weeks later I open my phone bill which is normally about $100.

It was $$48,797.09 !!!! And they refuse to take off the charges!

They are claiming that the charges are for Data Roaming. I did not even use my phone for data on the trip. I usually get my e-mail on this phone automatically, but they didn't show up. I had to use the hotels internet for $5 per day.

When I called ATT it took me 6 tries, each time getting transferred about 5 times each call. They promised to call me back twice and never did.

Finally I reached a supposed supervisor in the "High Use" department who claims that he has no manager for me to speak to. He also turned my phone off becasue I said I was not going to pay the bill. He also said he would ask someone to call me back and so far, no one has.

After reading the terms of my agreement it says I cannot sue them and have to use arbitration. From the web sites I found the possibility of me winning that are next to none...

What else can I do??? I don't even make that much in a year!

I suggest adding the

I suggest adding the international data plan, usually they will help and credit a portion of it as if you had the data plan at the time for the misunderstanding.

What I don't understand is, why do people buy data devices to get the data then complain when their phone uses the service without the proper plan? Before traveling we should always make sure we know what we will be charged and how to avoid it. I have heard it so many times. If you get your emails automatically every day, that will still happen while traveling! You may not have gotten them, but your phone still connected trying to get them. Think about it, your data device is like a small computer on broadband!

First they promise a full credit, then change it to 50%.

Well ATT finally agreed to credit my $48,797 bill when I reached the Office of the President. The woman I spoke with was very nice and agreed that the bill was not accurate. She turned my phone back on and said that the credit would be processed within a week. I paid my outstanding bill minus the data roaming. Finally, someone there who was not a robot and reading from a script!

Now two weeks later the internal collections department is callig me saying that the credit was denied and they could only offer me a 50% reduction and all charges were checked twice and are valid.

Plus I got a new bill with an $800 late fee. My bill is now $49,994. This is getting to be absurd. I think my blood pressure is hitting an all time high.

International Data Charges

I am in a similar situation. I signed up for a wireless air card for my laptop so I could receive e-mail no matter where I was. I was under the impression that I was covered internationally as well. That have since told me that was not the case and sent me a bill in excess of $56,000.00. Yeh, that number is pretty high. They have offered to pro-rate me to an international plan which would bring it down to $12,000.00 but that is still rediculous for internet usage for a weeks time while in Europe. Have you gotten any resolution on your end. Any advice you can offer would be helpful.

Shawn

You would like some advice,

You would like some advice, about how to have avoided this? LEAVE THE BLASTED AIRCARD in the states. If you are traveling out of the country at&t, has applicable data plans for international Usage, and you should have called to verify that your plan would have covered you outside to US; Re-Rate is what they should have offered you, which should bring your bill down to the same amount; but however, they don't have to do anything, as you did take the card out of the country, without verifying that you wouldn't receive any usage charges.

Why on earth would get you

Why on earth would get you get the impression that you would be covered internationally. Those aren't AT&T's towers...and you and everyone else knows this. The information is available to you...on the internet...in your contract...and sometimes and supposed to tell you. AT&T pays other companies in other countries to use their towers at a particular rate set by that company. Just because you didnt know or were to lazy to look it up (out of sight out of mind i suppose) does not mean you were not liable.

att

yet another lie from at&t....I know what you mean except my is only $780. Good luck - I am not epecting much from them....

NEVER AT&T AGAIN!!!!!

at&t

A very good lawyer once told me "contracts are only worth the paper they are printed on".
A good buisness lawyer should be able to "kill bill".and also the media can be helpfull
too.
tonight on news at 11 a 68,000 dollar phone bill!!!
a hungry lawyer can have a field day with that crap!!!
also his charges could be PAID...if he wants to fight!
my advise.....call a really really good lawyer oh and send those phones back!!

Is there any intelligence out there?

As I'm sitting here reading the many ex-customers complain; I started to realize how easy it is to place blame on others. "The international rates are too high"," I didn't go over my minutes, they are fraudlantely charging me", "I lost my sim card and I didn't tell the company, but I'm mad because they don't believe and they think I don't want to pay my bill" The truth is half of you people failed to read the terms or service or even took the time to understand what the hell you were getting yourself into. Do any of you buy a car without looking into the sales contract or terms? I'll be the first to admit that at times my experience with AT&T has been less than satisfactory, but 90% of time if my bill was high; I talked to much or did not listen to the redundant expecatations that the company set. Whats amazing is how many people play dumb!!! If you think that AT&T contract is not solid; I guess that would make sense because your are same people that think a Multimillion dollar corporation with an army of lawyers could never produce a contract that for most legal purposes would hold up in court. Truth is, you wanted a phone, got a pretty good deal and were more concerned with talking on the phone with your mom or snaggled tooth friend, than with how all wireless service in the usa operates. Be honest people, they provide the service, you use it and think somehow you are entitled to have the company regulate how much talk and text message and than when you talk too much or text or check your email the company should eat it because you can't see why; They give a list of all the calls you made, all the texts, all the emails and you people deny it still; claiming the big evil AT&T is robbing me;GET REAL!!!!! Have you people ever heard of using your head. Yeah, I must admit that 68,000 is a little excessive, but he did not even stop to think, that maybe my service has different rules outside of the US(just like culture or laws), or maybe I should check too see if I actually disconnected my internet browser on the phone; I mean if you leave your rent a car running and run out of gas, do you ask the rental company to replace the gas because you were to incompetent too check. My advice is look at the complaints on all cell ph. providers;AT&T is the biggest so they are going to have the most complaints. All wireless service operates on the same premise and for the most part are the same. Get a 68,000$ bill with T-mobile you'll be lucky to get a 25% credit. Stop complaining about your inadequencies in understanding the decisions you made or failed to make. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is!! And to those of you on this page who have screamed or abused any ph. companies reps, you are the ones too blame; who wants to help belligrent assholes, who can't even take the time too look at their bill or even know what their rate plan is, if you can't read don't get a cell phone. Bottom line is:If you don't know how the wireless industry works don't get involved and remeber next time you think about getting a wireless provider; its as big of a commitment as marriage so know what the hell your getting yourself into and be honest with yourself!!!!!

wow

that was beautiful my friend...i mean sometimes mistakes are made...and if it is the cell phone company's fault...they'll have it fixed before your off the phone...or set in order to be fixed at least...but if its your fault...own up to it...its not the cell phone company's job to credit what YOU DO USE!!!!

Thank You

I could not have said it better.

"And to those of you on this page who have screamed or abused any ph. companies reps, you are the ones too blame; who wants to help belligrent assholes, who can't even take the time too look at their bill or even know what their rate plan is, if you can't read don't get a cell phone."

ATT customer service sucks.

ATT customer service sucks. Mindless idiots.

Contact the Fraud Squad

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There are a lot of options available to you that will depend completely on factors that you did not post, such as: where you live, if the bill is officially in dispute with the company, and if it has been sent to a claims company. You should contact the fraud squad by filing an online complaint or calling the Hotline (619) 696-6966. They may be able to give you some advice if you share such additional information with them.

Cingular Overcharges Overseas

I used a Treo 650 for 2 years with Cingular and had no problem traveling overseas. I got a new 8525 and went to France for business for 5 days. This phone runs the internet in the background and I was charged $5,200 for roaming charges for internet use. I never even used it overseas.
When I complained they told me that this phone runs the internet in the background andi is always on. They said I should have disabled it. I said, how am I supposed to know this and that their salesman should have pointed this out as I said I use it for overseas use. Funny thing was David Blaine was in the next kiosk and he had the same thing with T Mobile as he was charged $5,000 for being in India and not using his phone. The Cingular saleman laughed.

Cingular has reduced my bill down to $1,200 which is still not fair but it does show that they admit they were wrong. I complained and now they stopped my service.

Any suggestions on how to handle the balance as the service they provide and the 8525 is perfect for me.

It is fair. You have a

It is fair.

You have a 8525, and it automatically checks for your emails and downloads them, if it didn't you would complain about that. When you are traveling internationally we have data plans, with 20 MB of international usage. Or Better yet you could put the phone in airplane mode. Betcha didn't think about that did ya? Make payment arrangements.

Cingular dispute=civil lawsuit for $1,700

I'm being SUED over a 3 YEAR OLD cell phone bill from Cingular.

I activated with Cingular, and the guy at the store hit "M" for 'mobile to mobile' instead of "N" for 'nights and weekends' resulting in 6 months of disputes regarding $1,000-$2,000 bills which Cingular would repeatedly credit and attempt to pacify with "bonus minutes". I have the old bills showing credits to my account for $1400, $800, etc.

Then these "bonus minutes" refused to "roll-over" and Cingular contended there was no way to figure out how many roll over minutes I should have. Cingular customer service reps (two of them) said they would hand-audit my previous bills as if I had been placed on the correct plan from the beginning. When I called back to find the status of the audit the reps and supervisors had no knowlege of such an event occurring.

I offered to pay the termination fee and my monthly usage fee, but they told me to "pay the $1300 first, and if we determine there is an issue we will credit it back to your account."

Anyone else with a similar situation? I could certainly use some more similar problems for my defense.

castnd @ yahoo . com

36 megabytes on my 19.99 monthly data plan

I signed up for the 19.99 a month data plan which bills based on usage. This was to be used on my laptop only when I needed it. At home I use cable for my desktop and laptop.
Cingular says I downloaded 36 meg of data in one sitting. No way did I do this. I received a bill for $250.00 for this.

I didn't bother calling them because they have the runaround thing down pat. Instead, I am sending my complaint using the good old post office. I figure there will be a lot of back and forth on this so I'm going to have all of the details in writing.

I have Verizon for my cell phone service but their data cards only have an unlimited plan so I thought I'd give the pay per usage a try.

If you have a chance to get out of your contracts, I really recommend Verizon. When I did have Cingular, (now AT&T) for cell phone, I went into a store to get a problem resolved in Atlanta. I waited in line for 20 minutes and then was taken to the back to be connected to support. I waited for 20 minutes on hold there also. When i finally got through, the woman didn't know how to resolve the issue so after many occasions of being put on h