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Property tax reassessment scam Update May 2009

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2009: UCAN has copies of letters being issued throughout CA that look almost identical except the company name and sometimes, the PO Box & phone #. Please see Tax Reassessment Letter Scam Info sent by the Los Angeles Dept of Consumer Affairs. UCAN was adivsed to tell you that if you are a victim within the County of L.A. call (800) 973-3370, and if you're a victim outside the County, call (213) 974-1452 and select #3 at the prompt. The complaint form can be found at this link - http://www.dca.lacounty.gov/Forms/CAComplaint.pdf.

If you received and paid the San Diego based company (with the San Diego phone # on the letter), contact the San Diego City Attorney. No matter where you live, if you received a letter from an L.A. based company, follow instructions from the Los Angeles Dept. of Consumer Affairs.  If you received and paid another company, contact the Attorney General. The California Attorney General's Office is taking all other complaints relating to other California companies that purport to assist consumers with filing the necessary paperwork to obtain a reassessment on their property value for tax purposes. Complainants can contact the California Attorney General's Office Public Inquiry Unit at (800) 952-5225.

2008 Blog: "Tax Reassessment Scam Hits San Diego" and UCAN wanted you to be aware: Have you been contacted by a company that is offering to reassess the value of your property for a fee? Consumers should be aware the county will reassess property value for free. The company has a P.O. Box and goes by the name of "Property Tax Reassessment." The notice looks like it's an official government notification but it's not. If you have received a notice from this organization or another like company, did you ignore it, try to contact someone with the company or pay the fee? UCAN has received several calls from people who have received this notice.

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http://www.realestate4real.com

HI, these property tax scams are cutting the progress rate of our country . in my views government should take steep action and should apply strong vigilance . ==========================================

http://www.realestate4real.com

Property tax reassessment not a scam

This company help me to save money on my property taxes the county does not like this businesses because they lose money by overcharging people, not everyone like me is an expert to find the real value of my property, now the county has to pay a law sue for stealing people money and they will paid from us the tax payer.

Property Tax Adjusters

I cannot believe this... SCAM.. I mail in two checks, one for each property at $189 each. address 11856 Balboa Blvd, Suite 281 Granada Hills, Ca 91344. I am unemployed, and that was very difficult for me to loose $378.

Anyone know what I can do now...???

Property Tax Adjustors

I actually received a notice that there was a hearing taking place this past Monday and I received a telephone call from the principal of Property Tax Adjustors that he was gong to appear on my behalf and all seemsed legimated and instead Satruday I received a letter from Assessment Appeals Division Manager that my application had been withdreawn with no explanation. I have contacted Property Tax Adjustors in Carlsbad four times in the last week and they do not respond to my emails and their company has no way to leave a telephone message. Indeed it appears I have been taken in by this scam. Is it worthwhile to take them to small claims court, I live in Orange County. Help Please. Carol V,

Property Tax Paid

You thought it was a good deal and paid them. Then you saw a press release from the government that these companies are trying to scam you out of your money because you don't need anyone to do this, you can do this on your own. But you knew you can do this on your own but choose not to, you choose to have a company do it for you, thats what you paid for. That is not a scam, that is you hiring someone to do the job gas to liquid process and for all you people complaining, why dont you wait until July to see if these companies actually saved you money and if they did not, see if they refund your money as these mailers state.

Property Tax Scam - Beware

I received a letter from 'Property Tax Assessor Records Corp.', from looking at the letter it seemed to be legitimate. Stupid enough, i sent in the letter without research. Later realized that I made the mistake after going to the web. Lucky enough, i did not yet send in the payment. I would recommend anyone receiving this type of letter to first do research and most likely it's a SCAM. Shred the letter and move on with your life. Don't have to deal with this type of SCAM. As a tax payer, i just can't believe there are company out there that do this type of things to people. What a society we live in.

I received a letter as well.

I received a letter as well. Thank you for your postings.
I appreciate it.

Caveat Emptor

We are getting these notices in Oregon too. Yes our value has gone down significantly. $189 indeed. As my old professor said to us long ago, Caveat Emptor: Let the Buyer Beware.

I learned to be careful from some of my experiences...

This country is beautiful but we still need to be careful...

My sister who lives in Oregon got the same letter yesterday from Regional Processing Center which located in Granada Hills, CA. She's thinking to give it a try. Good thing I did a search here for her. She's glad I saved her.

I'm glad YOU SAVED HER! A big "THANK YOU" to all of you who gave great informations!!!

Together let's spread the words and save more...

I was shocked and almost fell

I was shocked and almost fell for it. but thanks for your website! I appreciate it.

taxs

I was about to send the 197.00 off , but in side I felt something tell me not to. Thank you web site for the alarm.

"Property Tax Adjusters"

I am as sensitive as the next person to consumer fraud. I taught Consumer Protection law for many years. But charging for something which the consumer can get for free from another source is not fraud, and it is a scam only in the loosest sense. There are myriad examples of things one can do for free (e.g. electronic filing of tax returns), but there are folk who will charge you for doing it.

Secondly, the envelope in which mine arrived says, in a clearly delineated box on the front: THIS IS NOT A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT. My suspicions were raised by the complete absence of a 'phone # anywhere in the letter. The letter does include under 'Should I Hire You or Do It Myself?' a clear statement that you can do it yourself, but what you get for paying us to do it is our experience and our expertise.

Be careful what you label 'fraud' and 'scam.' Try this, which no one has ever done anything about: When you enter any timed parking facility, the clock going in is invariably two or three minutes slow. That is fraud. It is also a scam.

California company targeting Oregon now

In the letter I just received in mid-March 2010 a company called Property Tax Adjusters located in Granada Hills, CA informs me my property may be substantially over-assessed, entitling me to a $1881 tax reduction. They offer to attempt to obtain a refund if I send them the familiar sum of $189. The letter does state that homeowners can seek a reduced assessment themselves and claims they will refund my money IF they cannot obtain a refund. In fact, the drop in the value of my particular house has been small. This company is clearly trying to lure consumers with grossly unrealistic estimates of the value of their services. My guess is that any tax reduction would be substantially less than $189. Given their dishonesty, I would not trust them to refund any money sent to them.

I sent my check yesterday.

I sent my check yesterday. What can I do now to stop it?

I got a similar letter in

I got a similar letter in March 2010 from Property Tax Adjusters of Granada Hills, offering to appeal my current year's property tax assessment on my Oregon house. Apparently they don't know that the deadline to appeal this year's assessment was December 31, 2009, or they figure that the homeowners they're sending this to don'e know that either
http://isaac.blogs.com/isaac_laquedem/2010/03/a-california-property-tax-appeal-company-is-15-years-late-and-189-short.html

Don't Believe what Property Tax Adjusters send you

I am glad I located this blog site. Upon receiving a letter as all of you did, from PTA, I searched the web and found this site, as well as others. The letter from PTA indicated that my Portland, Oregon home was assessed at $325,000, and the NEW adjusted assessment would be at $227,000. And, that they could save me $1400 per year. HMMM interesting that they came up with that figure, since I sold the home in November 2009 for $335,000. And, you know darn well it had to appraise for that in order to close escrow. It's all a sham to get your $189. Don't do it!

Beware of CAPTA (California Property Tax Associates)!!!

CAPTA is running a somewhat different scam. You'll receive an envelope saying CONTROLLER on the left side suckering you to open it, and in it an urgent message to contact them. While they do not charge an up front fee as the other scambags, it may actually cost you much more than the $189 the other scambags charge. How? They will promise you to reduce your taxes for a 50%(!) fee or you pay nothing. Since I didn't manage to reduce my 2008 taxes by myself, I thought I got nothing to loose and will be glad to pay 50% if they will succeed, so I signed the contract, failing to pay close attention to the fact that it is renewed automatically the following years!
Once I signed, they did absolutely nothing. Their business model is based on the assumption that eventually many tax bills will be lowered, and when this happens, you get a bill for 50% of the reduction!
In my case, after few phone calls in which they admitted they can't lower my 2008 taxes, I sent a letter in 11/2009 requesting to terminate the service. At the same time I contacted the county assessor office and after couple of phone call negotiations I managed to reduce my 2009 taxes.
To my dismay and disgust, couple of months later I received a call and a bill from CAPTA, notifying me that THEY reduced my property taxes and my 50% is now due.
After few more phone calls and emails proving that I was the one who reduced the taxes, they still insist that my bill is due since I entered a contract which will only expire later in 2010. Obviously, I will never pay them a fee for a service they never provided, and if they will try to collect I'll sue them, but wanted to warn others against this particular scam, which can be much more costly than the other scams.
So if you receive anything from California Property Tax Associates, do yourself a favor and throw it to the garbage where it belongs!

I am in a similar situation

I am in a similar situation with CAPTA. My property tax was reduced due to an automatic reassessment conducted by the Riverside County Assessors office during the spring of 2009. Larry W. Ward, the Riverside County’s Assessor Clerk-Recorder was quoted in the Press Enterprise indicating that “homes bought after Jan. 1, 2001, will have their assessed value automatically reviewed ‘without any prodding from the homeowner’ because of the county’s recent home value plummet.” (Article dated April 3, 2009, “Riverside County budget cuts follow fall on property taxes”) I pointed this out to CAPTA in writing however they continue to take credit for the property tax reduction and have even threatened litigation to collect their 50% of my savings. I even sent them copies of the letters I received from the county referencing the automatic assessment.

The worst part of this experience is that the bill they sent to me does not contain accurate figures. They artificially inflated the starting value of my home and are charging for a reduction that is more than what the actual savings was.

Not only is CAPTA charging me for work that they clearly did not do, they are overcharging in their bill. That looks like DOUBLE FRAUD to me.

Follow up on CAPTA

Within hours after my previous posting I received a call from CAPTA promptly appologizing for the missunderstanding and the delay in responding. They promptly voided the fees which they charged by mistake. I am now considering the issue resolved.

I received the same letter in

I received the same letter in 2009 it just didn't make any sens to me, I don't know what repelled me I just thought that it was weird to ask me to pay money so they can lower my taxes, in general when u appeal something you pay a government source not some company, I saw the same week the local news talking about the scam I was glad I actually paid attention to the little details. However today I got a letter about my house assessment for 2011 and the prices are just too low, I would have lost a third of my property value, which doesn't make any sens, I know the economy is bad but not that bad+ where is the recovery. Also they are saying that the letter is not a bill but if I am not agree with the assessment I can always call the assessor. I think I am going to call them and give them a piece of my mind.

Fraud by Homeowner Property Tax Review Board

I paid them $189 and got nothing. Their promise was fake and the County did not reduce my real estate taxes as promised.

Scam Property tax

I paid 179 dollar for the first time I received the "Property Tax Reassessment" letter.

I paid 179 dollar for the

I paid 179 dollar for the first time I received the "Property Tax Reassessment" letter. After a few month, I received the second letter asking the same thing and I realized then it was cheating.

tax scam

people shold not avoid tax on properties and houses for sale Golders Green as it heart the public

PS

The letter I received from the company below came only Yesterday, january 9th, 2010. What balls!

Tax reassessment

I have also received a letter from the L A department of consumer afffairs stating that the suspect has been brought up on charges and has a civil suit against him. I had filed a complaint with that dept. several months earlier.

Can you imagine the gall of these people to have sent me yet another scam letter? This time the company is called Tax reduction Review and Reassessment Dept. What's more, they've upped the ante from 179 to 186! I am glad the crooks will get what's coming to them, The dirty bastards.

Criminal Charges have been charged!

Yipee! Got a letter from the County of Los Angeles Department of Consumer Affairs. They have filed criminal charges against the suspect. In addition, he also faces a civil lawsuit filed by the State of California Attorney General's Office. I thought it was going to be long shot by filing a complaint but it paid off. I'll probably wont see my money but at least this *ucker will get his in court. So everyone please file with the Department of Consumer Affairs to get rid of any other scumbags.
http://californiacitynews.typepad.com/california_county_news/2009/05/property-tax-scam-artist-apprehended.html

And the charges have been dismissed

All criminal charges have been dismissed. I don't understand why you are so happy that criminal charges were filed in the first place, all this company is trying to do is save you money. If you read the press release by the DA's office you will see that the reason for the dismissal is the company has saved homeowners in California over 40 million dollars.

ARE YOU KIDDING?

They have not saved anyone money! They send you the letter, you send them a check, they cash it, and then you never hear from them again. $209 for me. That's how they work. I have been calling and calling the number on the form, left lots of messages, no one returns a single call, and now, the phone number won't even let you get through to leave a message. It just states the outgoing message and when you try to do anything, like leave a message or contact a particular extension, the phone disconnects. I don't know what you are talking about. This is nothing but a scam, and one that looks really authentic on the surface.

property Tax Adjusters

Who are you . The scam artist who came up with this ?
These scum bags are not out to help anyone but themselves and are trying to take money from people who are down and can least afford it.
YOU ARE A GUTLESS WONDER IF YOU SPOUT THIS BULL UNDER ANONYMOUSE . IF YOU SAY SOMETHING THIS DUMB AT LEAST TAKE CREDIT FOR IT !!!
It is cowards like you that are throwing away this country . Stand up for what you believe in but be willing to back it up with action.

Damnit, I fell for it!!

Damnit, I fell for it!! pissed off at myself and them!

SCAM

Don't fall for it, if its too good to be real it just is.

PROPERTY TAX REASSESSMENT SCAM

We got a letter in February 2009 and fell this this scam. We paid $179/ each property of ours. Mailed out to Property Tax Reassessment, PO Box 25519, Los Angeles, CA 90025-9977. I have called them and someone has told me many times for the last 7 months that I would receive my refund, but I have not yet. Please watch out for these guys.

Property Tax Reassessment Scam

I paid $179.00 on Feb 6, 2009 for my property tax reassessment. Three weeks ago I received a letter from Los Angeles Assessors office that reassessment was declined. The Property Tax Reassessment was supposed to refund my service fee immediately if my property did not qualify for reduction. I still have not received my refund yet. I tried calling the their phone 1-888-879-4259 but after entering any of the selection numbers 1, 2 or 3 I got disconnected. I tried several times using different numbers and keep getting disconnected. I have my property reassessed before using different company and I always successfully reduction my property tax except for this one. I should have investigated this company before I send my service fee. Let this be a lesson to people like me.

property tax reduction

There are many scam out there so obviosly one has to do a little background check on the company you are dealing with. I'm an appraiser and peoply have called me to help them find sales comparables so they can reduce their taxes. I tell them I will gladly do an appraisal to pinpoint the REAL FAIR MARKET VALUE of their home. Yes anyone can do this one their own but anyone can fix their own car or do their own taxes. It takes a professional to do the job correctly. Yes the tax assessor office will tell you to come in and do it yourself because, they don't want you to hire a professional. Their job is to preserve tax revenue base just like an IRS auditor will try to get as much out of you as possible. The IRS auditor will not tell you about all your legal tax write-offs and deductions and neither will the county tax assessor. By spending $200 or $300 on an appraisal you can break even on your first year or save an additional $500 to $1,000 a year or more by reducing the assessed value correcly with an appraisal by a licensed professional. I have over 10 years of experience and frankly, tax assessor employees know very little about the value of property in todays market.

Sincerly,

Christopher J. Bailey/Certified Appraiser in Downey California

PROPERTY TAX REASSESSMENT SCAM

I just received my letter today. I live in San Mateo County. It was from Regional Processing Center, 11856 Balboa Blvd., Ste. 281, Granada Hills, Ca. I looked it up and it is a UPS Store. They are asking for a $189.00 service fee. I had a feeling it was a scam. How can they keep getting away with this? Shouldn't someone put a stop to this????

San Francisco City Assessor Speaks on the Issue of the Scam

Looks like someone in San Francisco City Hall paid attention!

http://www.sfgov.org/site/assessor_index.asp

http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/assessor/ScamLetter.pdf

His initial reply on a some sort of blog with pictures of the mailing from the "Tax Reassessement":
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=144316&id=171020735816&ref=mf

Property Tax Adjusters

So GLAD I found out this is a SCAM. Thanks for all the information. Almost fell for it!!!

property tax reassessment

There are many scam out there so obviosly one has to do a little background check on the company you are dealing with. I'm an appraiser and peoply have called me to help them find sales comparables so they can reduce their taxes. I tell them I will gladly do an appraisal to pinpoint the REAL FAIR MARKET VALUE of their home. Yes anyone can do this one their own but anyone can fix their own car or do their own taxes. It takes a professional to do the job correctly. Yes the tax assessor office will tell you to come in and do it yourself because, they don't want you to hire a professional. Their job is to preserve tax revenue base just like an IRS auditor will try to get as much out of you as possible. The IRS auditor will not tell you about all your legal tax write-offs and deductions and neither will the county tax assessor. By spending $200 or $300 on an appraisal you can break even on your first year or save an additional $500 to $1,000 a year or more by reducing the assessed value correcly with an appraisal by a licensed professional. I have over 10 years of experience and frankly, tax assessor employees know very little about the value of property in todays market.

Sincerly,

Christopher J. Bailey/Certified Appraiser in Downey California

scam

we just got the letter yesterday, thought of sending the money but decided to check for the form on line and of course there isn't one. thanks for posting this scam. wonder how many will not verify before sending that 189. eeek

Just got mine today (SF) and

Just got mine today (SF) and boy does it look official. At least in big bold letters they say their not affiliated to any government office and they offer a refund if they can't do anything for you. But like the other poster stated you gotta catch'em first. Try and Google map the address. It comes up as a body shop LOL...

Got My Scam Letter Today in San Francisco

Got mine for my property in San Francisco. And I'm supposed to send a check for $189 to 11856 Balboa Blvd., Suite 281 Granada Hills, CA 91344. No phone number of course. And the letter included a Proposed Assessed Value that's MUCH lower than the property is worth. Obviously they don't know what homes are worth in San Francisco.

Anyway, the thing that got me suspicious was the upfront fee request. Last year I received a letter from a law firm in San Francisco (that really exists) that really does this type of service, with a real phone number. The law firm didn't ask for any money up front, just a percentage of whatever tax savings they could get me. That's obviously a better deal because it's in their interest to get my tax reduced as much as possible, and if they don't succeed, I don't owe them anything. Anyway, I decided against going with the law firm and did it myself.

With this Property Tax Adjusters scam, they want the money upfront and there's no guarantee that they'll do anything. So I got suspicious and did a search. Glad I did!

Fraudulent Tax Scam

Got the same 'Tax Reduction Form' last year. $189.00...Repeat BS! Is there some way to prosecute these scammers?
(11856 Balboa Blvd. Suite 281 Grenada Hills, CA 91344)

Reassessment Scam!!!

Thanks for the heads up in Hacienda Heights, CA, My husband was ready to pay the $230 specially because it looked so formal and real. I had never heard of this company so I figured I should look into it, no phone # of course. I am usually pretty good at knowing what's going on with my home and taxes. This one caught me by surprise. Thanks for the comments, and confirmation that this was a scam.

Reassessment Scam

Got ours today for San Mateo, CA. $189. Pluhhhheeeaaassseeee. Total scam. Was going to mail it in with "SCAM" written on it but figured why waste the $.42 stamp.

regional processing center

The regional processing center is in the UPS store at that location. mailbox suite 281

scam

This assessment deal is absolute Bullshit....We got hit in Bakersfield and we are reporting to the State...I am sick and tired of this lie. Beware folks, it only gets worse

scam

we received on in Bakersfield yesterday, as well. Be on the lookout. Glad I looked this up prior to doing anything else. It looked a little fishy.

Prop Tax Reassessment Scam

Like Steve above, I also received the same letter. It does look very authentic marked with bar codes, actual current accessed values of my home, question and answers section and just the general overall look of a government form. However, asking for an up-front payment prior to any action on their part, is the tip off that this is a scam.
Actual government forms are available for free for this procedure and any homeowner can file his own.

SCAM

Yes I received the same exact letter with the same address , no contact number, they have my correct parcel number and want the $198 before the end of the year.

2010 PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION FORM

Regional Processing Center 11856 Balboa Blvd STE 281 Granada Hills,CA 91344
COST $189.00
No Phone Number to call, Respond due by 12/31/2009
Thank you for all yor comments on this almost had me.
TOTAL SCAM JOB. HOMEOWNERS BEWARE

SCAM ARTIST

Glad I google this company name and found out it is a SCAM. I almost fell for it. AH!!!! the power of internet.

How Many Own a home and fall for this?

Got Mine today in Oakley, Ca 50 mi from SF. Everyone qualifies for a reduction. So guess what No service fee refund hahaha ROTF.

Thanks for the catching this Scam

We also received this same letter for our property in the San Francisco Richmond neighborhood.

The letter looks impressive with a bar-code and looks very formal and government issued. The letter does not have any contact information (i.e., phone number) other that the address to send your check.

THANKS!

Glad to have found this page confirming this is a scam. I just got a letter from Property Tax Adjusters in Granada Hills. Thanks so much for the info!

Property Tax Adjusters

First, county assessor value property on fair market value. If the value falls, they are obligated to reduce the taxes. It is automatic. If you believe you are paying too much, go to the assessor's office to determine the value they have placed on your property. If it is lower than you tax bill, you need to find out when the assessor informs to treasurer's office. When that happens, the treasurer will make the adjustment to your taxes and even give you a refund, if you have already paid at the higher amount.

When I bought my house in 2008, it was valued twice what I paid for it. Of course, I paid the higher taxes on closing. I did as I outlined above and received a check for 50% of the taxes I had paid. All this was accomplished without the assholes from Property Tax Adjusters.

The clincher for me was the fact that there was no phone number on my letter. I'm glad these jerks are being exposed.

Thank you all for your posts,

Thank you all for your posts, I got a letter from Granada Hills today. It looked suspicious so I checked it out here, glad I did!

Property Tax Adjusters, Granada Hills

I just got the same scam letter in San Francisco today. These people are scum!

Property Tax Adjusters, Granada Hills, CA

I also just received this same letter everyone is talking about. I live on the San Pablo/Pinole border line. It does look like a very legitimate letter but whenever I receive letters like this I always check out the company online. Thank you UCAN and everyone who posted comments here to help expose this fraudulent company!

Property Tax Adjusters, Granada Hills

Also got letter yesterday from these people asking for $189. Thanks so much for acknowledging this as a scam. Luckily, I spoke to a friend who is an adjuster beforehand to get wind of this.

Property Tax Adjusters

The letter (not dated) from Property Tax Adjusters of Granada Hills, CA asks for $189 only to determine if I qualify, saying my Sunset, San Francisco, home assessed value should be reduced to $43,000. I told them to front the $189 first, and if the reduced the assessed value to $43,000, I will pay them $189,000.

If you think you can get a refund from them, you need to find them first , and if they are still liquid and around. Can't get anything out of a non-existent entity!

Property Tax Adjusters

I received a letter 2 days ago. They asked for $189 as well. I knew it was a scam, but the letter tried to look official. I fear that the elderly will be the victims of these scammers.

property tax adj.

Iam 70 years old . got my property tax adj. letter in mail today . 11856 balboa blvd ste 281 . send them 189.00 dollars thanks for your info. merry christmas . oh and f--k them. leonard.

Thanks for the heads-up

I got one in San Francisco today. Was curious and did a Google search for "property tax adjusters granada hills" and this site came up. The address on my form is also 11856 Balboa Blvd, Suite 281, Granada Hills, CA 91344. I figured it was probably a scam, and am glad to see this page as the first Google search results listing. Thanks, UCAN!!!

I guess some people have no shame. Hey, there's a major recession and people are sufferring - how can we use this to scam them out of their hard-earned money this holiday season? Jerks. I hope the state of CA goes after them with a vengeance.

Thanks UCAN

Like DeeMar123 below me, my father received an letter from Granada Hills, CA for property tax readjustment. Did a search and found this site; you guys just saved him a bunch of money. Thanks!

Now they're targeting San Francisco

They're spreading! A friend who lives in San Francisco just received a notice from Property Tax Adjusters with an address in Granada Hills, CA. Can the California Atty General's office do something about this?

Property Tax Adjusters Tax Reduction Form

Yes I received one today. The address on the envelope is Property Tax Adjusters
11856 Balboa Blvd Ste 281
Granada Hills, CA 91344-2753

I live in San Francisco. It is obvious that this is a scam when the form does not have a phone number listed. The content is also inaccurate.

Scams

I also received a letter from Granda Hills, Ca asking for $189.00 with no phone number to contact them. Thanks for all the infomation on thes sammers.

12/4/2009-Just received letter

My father just received a letter asking for 196.99 to be mailed to Annual Property Reassessment P.O. Box 25952, Los Angeles, CA 90025. 800-704-7091. Thank God, I look at all his mail, but I feel for those who are not aware of this and will fall victim. Please spread the word as I will.

ANNUAL PROPERTY REASSESSMENT - BAAH

I GOT MY LETTER TODAY 6/3/2010. I'M IN LOS ANGELES. AS A MATTER OF FACT I GOT TWO LETTERS BOTH WITH MY HUSBANDS NAME ON IT, SAME LETTER. i WENT TO THE COMPUTER AND FOUND OTHERS THAT HAD THE SAM THING HAPPEN TO THEM. LAST YEAR THEY GOT US...NOT THIS TIME.

THANKS FOR THE INFO.

IT'S A CONFIRMED SCAM

can't believe these guys are still in the business. it's seems so easy to rip off people and don't even paid for it.

Free Assistance!

Hello to All!

I have been providing free assistance to all my clients the past 2 years with the proper documentation and information needed to have your property reassessed in Los Angeles County, and I am now offering to help anyone and everyone on this blog free of charge in the Los Angeles County. As a REALTOR, we have all the resources to find out the most recent sales in your area. Feel free to email me if you need any assistance: Ben@magnorealtygroup.com

Good luck to all!
&
Happy Thanksgiving!

Ben

SCAM!!!

I received another letter from the Property tax reassessment company for the same property that I had previously paid a service fee for a few months ago. I even called the 888 number and talked to a rep to verify that I would receive my money back if the property did not qualify for a reduction. That seemed suspicious so I decided to google their name and address. This website came up. I am so upset I fell for a scam like this! I should have known better! Please please beware of anything that you receive from:
Property Tax Reassessment
PO BOX 25519, Los Angeles, CA 90025 (888)879-4259.
AND
Homeowner proeprty tax review board
Tax reduction review division
PO Box 41558, Los Angeles, CA 90041.

I got my 179.00 back.

It took 6-7 phone calls and 2 faxed copys of the check we sent but we got the 179.00 back and it cashed. just try not to get mad when you talk to them.

Do you know what the fax

Do you know what the fax number is? I have been trying to reach them, but their (888)879-4259 number has not been working. They have not been responding to my letters in the mail as well. Can you please give them a contact number where I can reach them. It would be GREATLY appreciated. They owe me a great deal of money thats why. Thank you so much!

Best,

TSH

Do you know what the fax

Do you know what the fax number is? I have been trying to reach them, but their (888)879-4259 number has not been working. They have not been responding to my letters in the mail as well. Can you please give them a contact number where I can reach them. It would be GREATLY appreciated. They owe me a great deal of money thats why. Thank you so much!

Best,

TSH

Do you know what the fax

Do you know what the fax number is? I have been trying to reach them, but their (888)879-4259 number has not been working. They have not been responding to my letters in the mail as well. Can you please give them a contact number where I can reach them. It would be GREATLY appreciated. They owe me a great deal of money thats why. Thank you so much!

Best,

TSH

property tax reassessment

hi i see your post that you got your money back. is there another number you called to get it back? i've been trying to reach someone from that property tax reassessment company and have not gotten a hold of anyone. i've left messages. please let me know what you did? i have 5 properties that we paid for tax reassessment.

thank you,

th

The Company that was running

The Company that was running the scam is RDI and is located in 4350 Glendale-Milford Road
Suite 250
Cincinnati, OH 45242
. I have all the information that you need in a way to prove they are resposable for this.

Another Potential Victim

Another thanks for those who posted on this site.  This is a pretty legit looking letter, so I cannot even imagine how many people are being suckered into to sending payment for something that appears to be fraud.  Especially since it comes right on the heels of the tax bill (at least in my case), which by the way has anyone noticed came much later than normal this year?  I can't help but wonder a couple things - 1. how these people even received my assessor's id number, which I would hope and assume is private information.  And 2. Why doesn't the official website of the LA county tax collector post any kind of warning on their website?  Even if this is not an official "scam" they should at least post something saying they are not affiliated with this agency.

Scammed once, not happening ever again!

I had received a similar letter last year, but like all others it looked rather authentic so I sent in a check for $189.

After receiving another one this year, it seemed suspicious to me so I finally googled and also found this page amongst others about this being a scam. I just hope this scam alert will get around others that don't have the knowledge or access to get to this website.

Current letter from:

HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAX REVIEW BOARD

Tax Reduction Review Division

P.O. Box 41558

Los Angeles, CA 90041-0558

-Has a bar code and all accurate ass# and name on the letter.

Sad that this type of scam is going around feeding on people when we are all already suffering from a financial crisis. No more than we want to save our hard earned money, but to have these scavengers pick at us; it is quite a tragidy.

The Scam Continues

Oddly enough, I received the scam notification just after I had requested a reassessment of my property, because I knew that the value had dropped, so I went on line and down loaded the form and completed and submitted the document myself. After several days pasted, I received a notification in the mail for $189.00 DUE NOW from.......you guessed it:

HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAX REVIEW BOARD

Tax Reduction Review Division

P.O. Box 41558

Los Angeles, CA 90041-0558

-Has a bar code and all accurate ass# and name on the letter and even a notice number which was 218129, this is probably how many scam notices they have sent out.

So thanks to all of you, I was able to avoid this scam that has a document that looks so real! Because I received this form just after my own reassessment submittal, it really made me wonder who is really behind this scam.....think about it!!

Received 3 Different agency letters from 3 places

Hello,

I too received the one from Tax Review Board, but we also received one from Property Tax Assessment Adjusters, LLC in Riverside for $93 and one from Property Tax Reassessment in Los Angeles, Ca. for $179. Both were official looking with correct numbers, but once again, a scam. Please be on lookout for these agencies also.

Thank you

HOMEOWNERS PROP TAX REVIEW BOARD.

the letter came the day after the assessment bill. it contained the exact assessed value and assessors id# as the bill. MANY PEOPLE will fall for this. there is no address, and no phone number, if there is any way an enforcement agency can prove they did nothing but sucker you into paying for a service not performed, they should be prosecuted, and proceeds confiscated.

Yip, i got 1 (actually 2) as

Yip, i got 1 (actually 2) as well.  Looks very official and I almost fell for it.  I got in touch with my real estate agent and she will help me get details required for the real reassesment!  I will save $189!  All I have to do is buy a house from her!

**Another update for LA, don't send money, it's a scam**

I receieved another one the day after I received my REAL property tax bill. The scam artists made this one look like a real bill so be very careful! It has a bar code, my assessor's id no and all my assessment info. Also NO PHONE NUMBER so you may have a hard time getting your money back this time around. Here's all the new info:

Homeowner Property Tax Review Board

Tax Reduction Review Division

P.O. Box 41558

Los Angeles CA 90041-0558

And of course $189 is due now LOL!

Thank you very much for this

Thank you very much for listing tax review board scam!

I also received a letter from :

 

HomeOwner Property Tax Review Board

Tax Reduction Review Division

P.O. Box 41558

Los Angeles CA 90041-0558

 

This time, it was printed very nicely. So, I wondered if this was real.

A while ago, I was deceived by this kind of letters, so i wanted to be sure and searched it on the Google.

It is how I found this web site.

Thank you very much again.

NOT A SCAM!!!

After reading this and posting above about how I totally fell for this "SCAM"  I just spent half the day looking for my last tax bill (the reason I hired them to do this for me in the first place).  When I finally found my bill, I looked on line and in fact my property taxes have nearly been cut in half.  I didn't fill out any paperwork, so they must have done it for me.  WELL worth the $189.  We bought our nearly $700,000 home at the height of the market and are very upside down on our mortgage.  This is why, they DID in fact save me thousands.  THANK GOODNESS!  There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with hiring an ourside company to file paperwork for you. 

Not scammed after all

is it fraud then?

They provide no contact information, the name of their company belongs to another firm in San Diego County, their office is a UPS store. Misprepresentation is fraud if it's used to collect money. Not only that in the course of doing this, they used a postage meter (Hasler 018H3503276 zip 91342) to mail this out. I know, I just got one of these letters and I see the postage meter mark on the outer envelope and everything.

WOW... you DID fall for it...

Your property was probably part of a county-wide reappraisal project in which the taxable value of your property was significantly reduced (which is consistent with you being "very upside down on (your) mortgage.")  So, you can thank your county assessor for your reduction in property taxes, not this "Homeowner Property Tax Review Board."

...And by the way, I think you can just go to the county assessor's office and have your property reappraised for FREE.

I just stuck my letter from the HPTRB in the shredder :)

Obviously you are part of

Obviously you are part of this scam.  I have helped one of my seniors get her taxes lowered.  After our meeting with the board, after receiving 2009 taxes here comes this letter.  Of course this is not the first attempt made by you scammers but this time the letter almost fooled me.  I thought we might call to see if they can help.  Then I realized there was no number or email address.  Looked on computer and what do I find...SCAMMERS ATTACKING EVERYONE!!!  Thanks for posting about the HOMEOWNER PROPERTY REVIEW BOARD JERKS!!!!  What goes around comes right back at ya!!!!  BEAWARE!!!!

Your guessing

You wrote "they must have done it for me", this means you don't know what happened. This company is scaming people and the older people are always the ones hurt. I would stop this company now if only I had the power and somebody in public offoce should bring these cons to their knees.

Good call

Good call, Richard. I agree with you. Although I wouldn't be too worried about that poster above you ... no real person would be that naive and illogical to fall for a scam, post about being scammed, and then later change the story 180 degrees to post about how "it wasn't a scam after all".  I reckon it's just another shill post by who else but the property tax scammers themselves in an attempt to sway opinion in their favor and make it "look" like they're providing a legitimate service. Fortunately most of us on this board realize their attempts are futile.

How on EARTH are they still doing this?

Why don't the police just go to their PO box?  I've been getting letters from this company for two years!  Further, why wouldn't they just complete the paperwork for you?  It would be an excellent business.

I'd been meaning to have my property reassessed for a couple of years and so after recieving this add X number of times I went ahead and paid them to do it for me.  It sounded like a fair price and a good idea for a business.  I just don't understand why they wouldn't have filed the paperwork...or how they can be scamming for THIS LONG!  UNBELIEVABLE!

I should have known, I'm just so busy, I'd hoped it was a legitimate third party.  I tried calling all those numbers, but have to listen to too many recordings just to ultimately file a complaint which obviously has been to no avail and worthless for others! 

Wow, this sucks.  Don't care as much about the $189...care much more about the paperwork not getting done on my property taxes!  AWFUL.

Succered.

what hurts the most.

its not the money issue. I just can't accept being fouled by these people and nobody took an action against them. I complained at least 3 times to the bbb.

Reassessment

See Jim's remark about being able to keep your father's assessment, but you are not too late to apply for this. You have 3 years from the date you inherited the property, and even if you miss that deadline, the assessor's office can reinstate your father's value for next year's taxes and the future. So, good luck.

property tax scam

I also just received the scam letter to reduce my property taxes and at first was definitely excited as my california taxes are outragious.  My father owned the home last year and paid 1200.00 for property taxes. This year after inheriting the home my taxes went to 5800.00.  This is the only home in the neighborhood that is taxed at that rate.  My home has been assessed at 499,000. by the assessors office and is assessed at 345,000. by all other agencies.   I wish there was a legitament office out there that could actually do something about these money grubbing ripoffs (county assessors). Just because arnold has totally broke the state of california doesnt give them the right to bleed the people of their money.  I think the assessor office is the real rip offs.................

Possible Assistance

Parent-child transfers of real estate are not taxable as an ordinary change in ownership in the state of California. Although from your post it appears that the appeals deadline has passed this qualifies as a mechanical error on the assessor's part and can be changed with the proper documentation to revert back to the lower value that your father had. Look at this article

    http://www.assessor.saccounty.net/GeneralInformation/ChangesinOwnership/SAC_ASR_DF_CIO_Excl_Avoid_Reas#Parent%20to%20Child%20Exclusion%20Claims

      Proposition 58, effective November 6, 1986, was a constitutional amendment approved by the voters of California which excludes from reassessment transfers of real property between parents and children. Proposition 58 is codified by section 63.1(b)(1) of the Revenue and Taxation Code.

      Hope this helps.

      http://www.capta1.com/
      The good property tax guys

Homeowner property tax review board

I just received a letter to my father in laws estate for tax reduction review division

 

tthey call themselves Homeowner property tax review board  P.O. Box 41558 los angeles, ca

 

it apppears that these peopkle sure move around alot. It looked real to me.

 

 

Property Tax Scam

Looks like another one is making the rounds.  I just got a notice in Pasadena.  Company name and address.

Homeowner Property Tax Review Board

PO Box 41558

Property Tax Scam

Very greatful for this site.I was getting ready to pay the $189.00 to the scamers and them i saw this site.on mine it says:

Homeowners Property Tax Review BoardTax Reduction Review DivisionP.O. Box 41558Los Angeles, CA 90041-0558

property tax scam!

I just received the exactly same letter. From PO Box 41558, for $189.00. My coworker has warned me about this before. Please spread the words to everyone....

Property tax review scam

Hi, I googled this topic, as I just received a notice

Homeowner Property Tax Review Board
Tax Reduction Review Division
P.O. Box 41558
Los Angeles, CA 90041-0558

It looks official and for $189.00 they process an application to the County Assessors office and can save you "thousands". Thanks for all your info. I am staying away from this SCAM! :)

CALIFORNIA TAX REASSESSMENT

Just got this in the mail today, from po box 600124, 619-288-3340. Thanks for having this site!

THERE'S A RIGHT WAY....

If you are interested in having your property taxes lowered via the informal and formal process, it's best to utilize a CPA or other tax professional. Of course, you could do it yourself. You can prepare income taxes, bankruptcy filings and dozens of other legal/financial related matters yourself, but you run the risk of investing a lot of time and headache only to find that out of ignorance or oversight you missed a big item when you filed and it cost you big money!
I'm not a CPA, but I provide a system used by CPA's, Tax Attorneys...etc, that prepares the property tax appeals.
If you need help, and are in the Southern California area, let me know and I can direct you to someone in your area.

We'll take a look at your assessed value at no charge

Hi All!

My name is Crosby and i work for Property Tax Adjusters, Inc. We have recently merged with another company to take on commercial & investment appeals (Paramount PTA). Here's what I am seeing: Most people who filed in 2008 are receiving great reductions in 2009, and yes, automatically. Not ALL of them are to fair market value... but most are. If you haven't filed at all, you're probably left out in the cold (or given some linear reduction that REALLY isn't in your best interest). For example, a 7% reduction, in a market that is 30% depressed, is a drop in the bucket.

We have been serving tax payers since the bubble burst and I have personally presented in THOUSANDS of hearings and been able to handle thousands more, out of hearing. It would be my honor to take a look at your assessed value and do a quick market evaluation of your residential property, 2,3 or 4 unit property, and now, commercial & investment properties.

There is no charge for us to take a look and see what can be done for you.

As for the "Homeowner..." or "California Tax Reassessment" They are an outright scam! They mail under a couple names, but it all goes to the same people. They were arrested and released on bail. Now they are mailing to owners of units. I think they mailed to every owner in the state, regardless of status (buyers from 2004 - 2008 are the only ones who can be helped, as a general rule). They are in violation of so many B&P codes, I can't believe these jokers are still on the streets!! They managed to swindle MILLIONS out of CA homeowners and are back at it again!! I have NEVER seen a rep of theirs at a hearing... EVER. I have spent a month of tuesdays in the basement of the LA County building (that's where the appeals hearing rooms are) and in that time, I have met most of the real agents... They are not on that list.

Feel free to contact me directly at 760-930-9256 or at c.tague@proptaxadjusters.com and I will take a look at the market surrounding your property. All you need is your Assessor Parcel Number (APN).

Cheers!

Crosby

 

 

It's free to ask the county

It's free to ask the county for a reassessment of your property taxes. I did it last year and it's really easy. I just received one of these letters and the next day I read in the LA Times that the DA is going after them and to report them to the Attorney General.

And I guess it's fine for a realtor to offer this service for free, but let's be honest here, are you going to give them a sales pitch about the other services you provide and/or is this to add to your list of clients that you can market to later?

Please send me the name of

Please send me the name of someone in the mid-Wilshire are who can appeal property tax increases.  Thanks you very much.

Pat

Name of someone in mid-wilshire area

Did you ever finsd someone?

We can help.

We can help. Look at the posting above.

Homeowner Property Tax Review

I was almost ready to pay for this service. I know I need a review, as my neighbors' assesments are so much lower than mine. I used to deal with a realtor who did this, but he no longer provides this service. I would like names of qualified individuals who prepare tax appeals. Please don't use, solicit, promote or pass my email to anyone else. Thank You

Legitimate Tax Review Preparation

I neglected to rquest for the Long Beach CA 90807 area of So Cal.

Property Tax Appeal - Long Beach

Did you ever find someone?

property tax review

I would like the names of CPA's in the Sunland, CA 91040 area who perform this service. Thanks. And PLEASE don't use, solicit, promote or pass on my email to anyone or anything else!!!!

Big Scam!!!!

I just received a letter about a Property tax review board about a Property Tax Deduction Form with an address like this:

Regional Processing Center
P.O. Box 3966
Chatsworth CA 91313-3966
(800)581-0628

The letter tells me to send a check for $189.00 service fee before September 25.It looks like a government letter with a bar code and assessor id #.It is a totally a scam be aware and be careful.It is not from the government,they have no website,po box instead of their exact location,and they also have a (800) number.

Got the same

I received exactly the same letter, and I started to pay online on the lacounty website. And the website showed that I did not have any such balance, thats when I got suspicious. It also felt a bit fishy in the beginning given that the deadline was so close. The county office always has enough cushion. I sometimes feel like whipping these scammers ;).

one note in somewhat fine print at the bottom says "A NON-GOVERNMENTAL COMPANY"

*Updated Scam info for LA*

New Name:

Annual Property Tax Review
Tax Reduction Review and Reassessment Department
P.O. Box 251649
Los Angeles California 90025
(800)832-9905

Same nonesense. Fee $167 , if not mailed by deadline $187. They want the check to be made out to Annual Property Tax Review . On the envelope it says Final Notice, has a bar code on the stub, and portions of the "bill" are highlighted to look official.

Got same letter (SCAM)

This is big scam, do not pay $167. They make it looks like letter came from LA County. I am going to file complain with DA to investigate these type of people who are keep ripping home owners on daily basis.

Just recieved same Scam

This is the second scam letter I have recieved in the mail for
ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVIEW HIGHLIGHTED FINAL NOTICED
Just recieved today on 11/17/09 requesting the amount of $167.00 payable to ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVIEW

Address: ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVIEW
Tax Reduction and Review Department
P.O. Box 251649
Los Angeles, CA 90025
(800) 832-9905

I got the same letter

I just received the same letter. They are pretty sophisticated in making their letter have the same look & feel as property tax bills.

They call themselves:
Tax Reduction Review and Reassessment Department
P.O. Box 251649
Los Angeles, California 90025
(800) 832-9905

There is a pink box that says: NOTE: Due to property decline in values, your property qualifies for a tax reduction review.

Another pink box at the bottom says: TO ASSURE PROMPT PROCESSING RETURN NO LATER THAN THE REQUESTED DEADLINE. Make check for $167.00 payable to ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX REVIEW.

I found this to be very fishy so I looked it up, and I am glad I did!

new name - same scam

just received letter from "annual property tax review" - post office box, 800 number, no website, requests for check sent - same stuff. do NOT send a check - especially with account info, etc. printed on it. NEVER send check without more information than a blind letter sent to you unsolicited.

Homeowner Property Tax Review

At first, the letter looked official and legit, but I was skeptical. I did not request such service, but I kept getting this letter from "Tax Reduction Review Division" The letter does not state its a private company offering this service. Upon googling "Homeowner Property Tax Review", search result showed "SCAM"

I would love to call and request to be removed from their mailing list, but of course, the phone number is not listed.

DO NOT SEND CHECK to these companies. You might be the victim of ID theft as well. Here's the address:

HOMEOWNER PROPERTY TAX REVIEW
Tax Reduction Review Division
P.O. Box 41558
Los Angeles, CA 90041-0558B

scam

thank you very much I almost sent them a check

Got my 179.00 check back today..

After ten calls and two copys of check,, and around 8-9 weeks ,,, I GOT A CHECK TODAY FOR 179.00,, OFF TO THE BANK FRIDAY,, LETS SEE IF ITS GOOD, I WILL UPDATE BY WEDNESDAY 9-23-09 My only tip is to be nice, and it was hard to do...

Tell us who these jokers are?

Tell us who these jokers are? Their must be a business name on the check and that should be attached to a valid business license? Put it out there. These guys appear to be hiding behind anonymity --blow that cover!

Property Tax scam

Hello, just wondering if the refund check was "real". I've been working with them to get the refund since 9/4/09 with no luck... thank you. Lucy

Check

Dont give up, I got my check and it cleared 2 days later.. 179.00

$179 refund for scam

Hey,
How did u go about getting your $179 back? I am so pissed I was stupid enough tp send them the money. At this point its not the money but just not to let them enjoy my money Please help!

Guy
310.261.8589

Do You Have A # to request a refund?

My elderly mother sent them a check. she doesn't even own the property anymore!! She had no idea what it was but saw a deadline and she sent in the check right away. the check cleared for $187.00. She threw away the letter so I have no way of contacting them. The only info I have is that the check is cleared by Annual Property Tax Review. Please Help.

Phone Number on Notice

Hi, I just received one of the ridiculous notices and the information is the following:
Annual Property Tax Review PO Box 251649 Los Angeles, CA. 90025 - Phone: (800) 832-9905 - I hope this helps.

Thanks for the phone number.

Thanks for the phone number. I called but I got voice mail. I seriously doubt they will call me back but at least I can keep calling and leave annoying messages.

property tax reassessment refund

When this company Property Tax Reassessment gave you back your refund...what did the check look like? Because I got a letter today saying they would refund my money..well at the end of the letter, was a check but it looked like a photocopy on white paper. To my knowledge, they got a piece of white paper stuck it in the typewriter and wrote the letter and faked a check on it. I`m just curious. I think it is fake.. Isn`t the name of the bank supposed to have a phone number on the check? And is it supposed to be your cancelled check or what?

Refund check

My wife just got the same letter / check in the mail. This site seems to be the only one that is talking about these letter / refunds. If anyone tries to cash one, or has any other info on what these might be, could you please let the rest of us know.

Thank you and Good Luck - BPS

check........

All I got was a check, not a letter saying they would refund my money, the check looks like a real check with name of bank phone number.

Should of known better...........

The check cleared monday 9-21-09, what a learning experience, all I have to say is watch what you get in the mail and never send a check,,,Just call me LUCKY..

San Bernardino Country - New Scam Address

I've just received a letter from "Property Tax Review Board" containing a "Property Tax Reduction Form", with an address as follows:

PROPERTY TAX REVIEW BOARD
Not a Government Agency
REGIONAL PROCESSING CENTER
PO BOX 3966
CHATSWORTH, CA 91313-3966
(800) 581-0628

This letter urges me to send a check for $189 service fee before September 25. It looks like an official government letter with a bar code and an assessor ID #. It is certainly a scam; be forewarned and notify responsible authorities.

Red Flags: Los Angeles County mailing address for San Bernardino County property
Not a Government Agency
PO Box instead of actual physical location
(800) phone number
No computer website
No e-mail address

got the letter

I looks realy official but it smellesd fishy they wanted $189.00 fee to save me $1300 not responding

Contingency Fee Service

I entered into an agreement with a firm that worked an a contingency fee. "No Savings. No Fee." However, the assessor's office in my county reassessed over 350,000 properties purchased between 2001 and 2008 and automatically reduced the assessed value of thousands of homes; including mine along with every house on my street. Now I have received a bill from the consulting firm demanding 50% of the savings. Should the consulting firm be billing me for savings that they had nothing to do with?

Land to collect taxes, but may not have ground to stand

These services are exactly like any other professional services, such CPA, Tax preparer, Realtor, fisherman, lawn service man, builder of your home or your computer virus cleaning service company. Unless that individual or company actually takes your money and does not do anything for it, then it is a SCAM. If you knowingly accept the offer, you pay for it and you should do your best to contact the company and if they in fact do not do what they've promised, then I agree 100% that you have a valid claim. Just like my tax preparer, I pay her over $250 per year to do my income tax and yet no one call her a scam just because I could do the income tax myself. You know I could just go down to the IRS office and get the easy form 1040 and its handbook and their toll free number where IRS agents would be gladly help me with any question that I may have. The taxpreparer itself does not consider a scam. But if someone offers you to do similar thing like help you fill in forms, preparing documentation to appeal your real property tax appeal, gather the data required and shipped it off to the county assessor, you consider them a con artists? Please think again!!!!! For $179 to get my property tax appealed, I think it is a good price. Just because of something you can get it free and you pay for their times, experiences and inconveniences that you don't want to face, you think it is a scam? Why would you pay for fish at your grocery store? Would all the fishermen are scam artists because you know you can also go to the river or lake to catch your own fish for FREE! DUH! (oops, did I mispelled that duH or Hud?) Another thing, attorney general or government official will lose billions of dollars from the local county assessors because they have to reduce the taxing revenues because your asset dipped. Do you really think that they are looking out for your 'best interest'? Instead of wining, please go down to the assessor office and do the filing yourself and see if all the efforts and inconveniences are worth less than $179? Let me know. I am professional real estate investor and I am by far having more experience about these tax appeal processes than 99% of you out there, I still would gladly pay someone to do the paperwork and send in my property tax appeal for $179. I paid several thousands of dollars to have my property taxes reduced last year and I will continue paying someone else who has more experience than I. It is a service that I need. If you don't need the services, save your money and use it for movies or something. Oops, before I forget, you can cut your own hair; why you pay a barber? Is your barber a scam? My advice, check your county's deadline and go file your appeal if you don’t trust anyone but your tax collectors. READ other article that put out by the assessors. One, I remember reading, in Santa Clara, about 1/2 of those who filed last year got their property tax lowered. If your county assessor is working on your best interest, why would they 'mistakenly' or 'intentionally' over assessed those 1/2?

For those who had paid $179 without reading the offerings, I feel for you. Please contact the company, making sure they actually have filed your tax appeal by now. If not, insist that they do. For the meantime, because the government filed complaint in the court does not automatically make all tax appeal services fraudulent. Because the government has right to collect taxes on the land it governs; this itself does NOT necessary grants them ground for its lawsuit. I am anxiously waiting for verdict of the court. :)

Misrepresent what they are selling

The reason it's a scam is in the way they present it. Yes it is a service, but they intentionally try to mislead with the letter almost hoping you won't notice. They make it look like a bill, and even though they state they are not a government agency they try intentionally to make it look like it's from the assessor's office. If they were up front about what the service is that would change things. Why don't they say, "We have the experience to get results lowering your property taxes. We do the research for you and file the paperwork with the government. We have a high success rate. We've saved our customers thousands of dollars. If we can't save you money, you get your money $186 back. Give us a call." And make it clear it's a service, not the government. If that were the case then I'd say it's not a scam. I probably would have signed up myself. I don't understand why they don't present it that way instead. More legit. FYI It took me a decent amount of time to do research the comps and submit the paperwork. I got my lowered for 0$ out of pocket. Now I'm glad I did it myself cause I learned how to do it. It's not hard. Then the Assessor's office lowered it a second time without me even filing again.

your view on scams

These services are total SCAMS. Look at the printing of the forms they send, very similar to a tax bill. I almost fell for it, but knew that it was not from the county tax assesors office, where it should be. They also screwed up, on the form they sent me they put in my mailing address as the property address, oops. Also you can check real online sources like Zillow, to get a rough estimate of your homes value.

Thats some piece of work, your defending these bullshit scammers. How can you compare that to buying fish at the market??? did i mis-spel duh? hud? what? The county tax assesors office is the one who you would contact to have your property assesed to see about lowering your property taxes. They and only them can change the numbers of your tax bill, according to the fair market value, and it does not cost you to request a review.

They've Reached Northern Cali

I fell for this scam also. I am going to call them tomorrow and demand my money back or drive down to that PO box and wait till someone collects. I will keep you all updated. I am pissed!

does anyone have information

does anyone have information to demonstrate the reduction in home/land values that can be used to support the re-assessment

This is terrible!!!!

Thank you to everyone who has posted a comment. After reading everyone's comments, I am pretty sure I will never see the $179 again. But, I thought what the heck, I am going to call these jerks again. I got some guy of the phone that was really nervous to talk to me. I asked to talk to a manager and he would let me talk to anyone else and he kept saying they were just a call center. I told him, that there had to be someone who could help me and he better figure out who that was. So, anyway, he broke down and told me to Google the company name and gave me an email address. Maybe he was trying to let me know it was a scam, because when I Googled the name, this is the first website that came up. I am sure no one will respond to the email, but it is worth a try. The email address is info@propertytax.us.com I sent an email to see if it was legit and it went through. Good luck to everyone....Lesson learned.

Property Tax Reassessment Scam

I want to thank you for letting us know what happened to you. The exact thing happened to my husband and I. It's people like you that can make a difference and to the other ones too. It has now settled an argument with my husband and I. This is truly a scam. I would like to knock on their door and collect all the money and give back to who it belongs to. Thank you to UCAN.org for your wonderful service it provides us.

The Bernie Madoff's of Tax assessments

These guys should be rooming with Bernie Madoff in jail for 150 years.

JEGIII you coldhearted egregious putz

Your verbose diatribe of logorrhea (look it up, schmuck) doesn't hold water. Your premise is that you have to pay for a cup of cofee as Starbucks, etc. Well the difference between Starbucks and the reassessment scam is that Starbucks delivers the coffee. tYou pay hte maid, the house gets cleaned. These scam-bags take your money and give NOTHING. (Not even a cup of Strabuck's.) I fell for the ploy LAST DECEMBER and the apllication WAS NEVER FILED! So get off your wiseass high horse and stop belittling pepple who need to vent and seek recourse. Are you perhaps one of the sammers? Why else would even you be looking at this site, if you were not a victim or prospective victim? Just for the fun of dissing honest persons? or for more sinister reasons? Heh?

Of course it's a scam

Whoever says it's not a scam is out of touch with reality! The first letter looked "official" - not by coincidence but by crafty design. I felt the idea sounded illogical, but what do I know about government workings? So I asked my accountant - who did not see the letter. He told me to pay the fee, unaware of the ploy, and said the tax assessor probably requires a fee. I paid $179, like all the other naifs. That was last December.
The scam is that no document was filed in my behalf as I was told by the tax assessor's office. When you pay your gardener, the grass get mowed; you pay your maid, the house gets cleaned, etc. These bums take the money AND RUN! PERIOD! end of disussion! I wrest my case! I'd like to wring some necks. But whose?

Unbelievable

All I have to say is that these people will burn in hell. I really cannot stand that these low lifes are stealing money from people. Carma is a bitch and I really cannot wait unitl one of them opens up the letter from that guy that wiped it with his ass. haha. I'm so glad they are getting sued for 2.5mil. Seriously, may they burn in hell, if they want I can reassess the taxes their for them for $179...Bastards

Thanks

I almost got suckered in..and For TWO properties.
Thanks Everyone for their postings...

TAX REASSESEMENT LETTER BASED OUT OF LA COUNTY

I received a letter from this company based out of Los Angeles County and i live in Sacramento County. Why is a LA based company trying to do reassessment in Sacramento County. This company is a SCAM!!!!! KEEP YOUR MONEY AND GO THROUGH YOUR COUNTY ASSESSORS OFFICE.

scam

I was taken in. Yes, I feel stupid and ripped off to the tune of $179. Before even finding this site, I received a follow-up letter thanking me for "choosing Property Tax Reassessment for your property tax reduction needs."

Too Late.

I called the letterhead phone number (888)879-4259, asked to be removed from their program. I was instructed to send a letter to their P.O. box with this request and a copy of my canceled check front/back; refund will appear in 8-10 weeks. I am hopeful but not optimistic.
Lesson learned.

Property Tax Reassessment notice

I got the same notice regarding my property reassessment and with all these positive and negative comments I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW!!!! Can someone tell me what the best to do?????

Thanksssss

Tax Reassessment

The letter states that it is a service to homeowners. You still have the option to contact the county and have your taxes reassesed for free. They clearly state that they are acting as your agent. Some people don't mind paying for the convenience. After all this is America. It's okay to provide services to others as long as you do complete the service. People are busy and don't want to deal with the paperwork involved. The economy is bad and people are trying to find new ways to make money, not always to scam people.
Maybe the best way to handle this is to pay them half and when it is finished pay the other half. At that point they have to hope that your are honest.

IT"S A SCAM

I also recently received one of these letters and thought about trying there services. fortunately for me, i work for the government and recieved a letter from the assitant attorney general of arizona "confirming its a scam" need i say more, don't waste your money. welcome to america, be cautious of everyone requesting cash and get rich quick schemes. Listen to your grandparents " if it sounds too good to be true it usually is!" read the reviews at azag.gov. go to scam alerts, then click on scams... Terry Goddard Attorney General warns beware of bogus property tax offers. i base my info on facts, he can be reached at 602-542-2123 in Pheonix AZ. Compliments of johhnymac59.blogspot.com.

notice

contact your assessor, the same paper work is online for free.........

kidgeonfriends@yahoo.com

Even if they are a private company does it give them the right to scam people? I call this place and at first they said they had no records and then they said it was being appealed. These guys are lying through theie teeth, I checked the LA COUNTY Assesors website and they have a SCAM alert about these companies. It says on the website that reassessment is FREE!, by the way I checked my property records, NO reassessment paper work has been done. In my opinion, Dont trust anyone here that posts that these companies are legit or you will be out $179. Im so angry, never again, by the way my mother in law got the same notice, luckily we told her about it.

Of course you can do it for

Of course you can do it for FREE, they even tell you can do it for FREE. So just because you can do something for free it is a scam. Well then I would like to report the following scams

CPA's
Gardners
Plumbers
Carpenters
Maids
Oil changing companies
Poolmen
Cooks
Waiters
Basically anything in the service industry. This is a service being provided to homeowners that don't want to go through the lenghty appeals process on their own. They would rather hire a company to do it. Just because the government that is broke does not want you to save money, does not mean these companies are scams. I keep hearing that "oh my god I fell for it" all over this blog. What did you fall for? Correct me if I am wrong, you received a mailer stating that you may be entitled to lower property taxes and if you were interested to have Company X represent you, you were to pay them XXX or a portion of your savings. You thought it was a good deal and paid them. Then you saw a press release from the government that these companies are trying to scam you out of your money because you don't need anyone to do this, you can do this on your own. But you knew you can do this on your own but choose not to, you choose to have a company do it for you, thats what you paid for. That is not a scam, that is you hiring someone to do the job and for all you people complaining, why dont you wait until July to see if these companies actually saved you money and if they did not, see if they refund your money as these mailers state.

And to the rest of you that are going to blast my post saying the mailer looks official or is misleading or is blah, blah, blah. My question to you is, can't you read? Do you blindly send money to everyone that solicits money from you? So this is your thinking; Oh my god, it mentions my taxes on it so it must be from the government I have to pay it immediately. If that is your thinking then you would NEVER appeal your taxes in the first place because all you would have done is got your tax bill, saw it mentions your taxes and sent off a check, because obviously you don't read stuff.

I hope every single one on this board has filed an appeal and has told all their friends and family to file. Anyone that has hired a company to work for your appeal, you did not get ripped off, you hired someone to do a job and until the new taxes are published you cant complain that they are not doing their job because you don't know. To the people claiming that the assessor said nothing was filed, the assessor told me that also even though I had proof via certified mail. The assessors are asses and they know it, that why their name is ASSES-sor.

Good luck everyone.

scammers

Oh shut up! Obviously you won't admit to being scammed sometime in your life. People here have been victimized and are hurting.

Oh really?

"But you knew you can do this on your own but choose not to, you choose to have a company do it for you, thats what you paid for." First of all, I didnt know it was FREE until after the fact, I thought it was a legitimate notice from the LA COUNTY office. Where did I say if something is for free it is a SCAM? Truth is it was a scam, if they couldnt lower my property taxes where is my $179.00??? It clearly said if we cant lower the taxes we will give you a refund. Remember the first person I talked said there was no RECORDS of me, its until I got angry they magically found a reoord of me. You added nothing to this discussion other than throw insult to injury. I dont appreciate your condescending approach to this. In my opinion, I think you work for these characters and they have you here putting out their fires.

scam

Of course you can do it for FREE, they even tell you can do it for FREE. So just because you can do something for free it is a scam. Well then I would like to report the following scams . You forgot to number yourself 1. IDIOT

Courtesy

It is not individuals or UCAN calling this system a scam. It was on the consumer division for Los Angeles and stated when you call the San Diego County Tax Assessor's office. It's not fair to shoot the messenger.

By the way, there are letters that do NOT let you know this process can be done for free and letters that look exactly like a government document. Conversely, there are letters that disclose the information fairly. It is not the letters that provide open and clear disclosure that anyone would challenge.

Scam Alert

Check out the website it tells you everything you need to know about the scam, I wish I would of done my homework.

assessor.lacounty.gov/extranet/list/newsList.aspx?newsid=89

We got scammed to

I was skeptical at first and I should of went with my fist instinct, I called today and gave them an earful. First I wasnt in there system, then my case was going to appeals. I asked for a Supervisor and I was told he was in a meeting, yeah sure. They told me to send a copy of the check to get a refund, Im not even going to bother after reading some of the posts. WHy are these people still in business, I guess all you need is a PO Box, 800 number and Adobe Photoshop to scam people. We are so pissed, we want to take them to small claims. Who are these F*ckers and why are they still in businees? Will filing a complaint to consumer Affairs get my money back? FYI here are is the address from these peopole who scammed me"

Property tax reassessment
PO BOX 25519
Los Angeles, ca 90023
Phone 888-8794259

refund

I sent my check for 179.00 to Property tax reassessment PO box 25519 Los Angeles,Ca 90023,,, I want my money back,,,can someone help us..

refund

This is a Thank you letter to the Anonymous comment on June 5th 2009 - I also received such a letter but am highly skeptical so started browsing cause I didn't understand why I would receive this letter from both the Orange County Assesors office and then another from this anonymous location in LA.

refund

glad it helped, saving 179.00 theses days helps out........

I got scammed by these guys

Sadly, I thought only old people fall victim to these crimes / scams. I applied for home reassesment (legitimately) in Feb 2009, in April I recieved this scam and thought it was the city's response to my request. I paid the $186 thinking that was the fee owed and now my property assesment was complete. I sure was wrong, becuase of the fraudulent way they crafted thier scam letter, I paid for a service which I had already done myself. Has anyone got thier money back from these guys. Their San Diego number is listed at 619-288-3340...

Reassessment

Hmm... I just got one of these letters too. Seems very ligit I can see how they "got" you. Was it difficult to do it yourself? Who does the reassessment? Or do they just base it on current property prices?

First of all, this is not

First of all, this is not the first time an outfit has sent us "official" looking letters. AARP, insurance companies and others do it all the time. If you read the entire letter they fess up to not being a government agency in bold type. So they seemed legit enough to us.

However, we balked at the $179 fee, and googled property reassessment to see if they had any competition.
They do, and for a lot less. There are several firms that will send you a do it yourself package with forms and letters and tips for rproperly requesting a reassessment from your county.

We just opened "the Letter"

Thank you, thank you, thank you! We received the letter from the Property Tax Reassessment co and WOW at first it looked legit but lie many others who have commented, we Googled it and found your website which in turn confirmed our suspicions.
Thanks for your help

latest legal action

Hi -Just found your site. We were scammed by these guys years ago. Frankly, I don't understand how some of you are defending these people as legit (unless you work for them). They don't pay refunds, nor do a reassessment as they say they will. They have an F rating with the BBB., where it is also shown that the Attorney General is investigating as of May 12, '09. Check 'em out yourself!

Thanks!

I was about to write my check and then thought, hey, can't I just do this on my own? When I Googled property tax reassessment, your blog and notice came up. Thanks for saving me thet $179~~~

WE FELL FOR IT..N PAID THE

WE FELL FOR IT..N PAID THE AMOUNT N SEND IT.. WE DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS A SCAM UNTIL NOW THAT IM READING THIS.. WAT DO WE DO KNOW..IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO?

To get your money back

page down and find postings with success stories. I was able to get my money back calling the 800# and sending an email. I sent payment to property tax readjustment in LA.

property tax reassessment

Can you please help me i've been trying to get my money back since april 2009 I called themm every month and i
talk to mr Charles and he tells me that it will take 4 to 6 weeks but it's been 7 months already and i need the because i lost
my job i have 3 kids and it hard can you please call me at 323 227-1768 thank you

Scammers suck

Okay, for the sake of being objective lets just say they do provide you with a service. Then why haven't I heard from them?
Yes, I fell for it too. It looked very official and I didn't spend the time to read through it. I just thought the county was going to reduce my property tax and mailed it off.
I'm usually pretty darn good at not falling for this BS but I did and I except my mistake as a $179 learning experience.
I hope it helps to put food on the table for one of their employees.
I did call them to cancel and followed their instructions for a refund but that was 3 months ago. the money is gone and I'll never see it again.
Don't fall for this crap.
The idiot who keeps giving you the line about how state and county doesn't want to lower your property taxes is probably right but this bullshit company sure won't get it done for you.

tax reassessment

I received such a letter from Property Tax Reassessment, P.O. BOX 25519, Los Angeles, CA 90025 .. Phone 888-879-4259 . It does state that this is not a government agency in bold print on the bottom.

Bold Print

It does state it"s not a gov't agency,but it buried inthe middle of the back page. It is totally decieving due to it's so called "official" look. I only checked because I was suspicious - others may not be.

First of all did you

First of all did you understand what you were paying for? If so then what is the problem, is the problem that a stupid website like this says its a scam and you are worried the company won't perform the services? If you did not understand the services, why don't you simply just ask for a refund?

The problem is the government is blasting companies like this because they don't want to lose money, so they call it a scam. Yes some companies have had a very aggressive marketing campaign while others have informed the homeowner they can do it themselves if they wish to. However, regardless of the marketing campaign, the end goal seems to be the same across the board and that is to save homeowners money. Now I keep reading how the Assessor's office is doing this for free right? Well of coarse they are, it's their job to make sure your home is properly assessed. What these companies are offering is a service to appeal your taxes, they are saying that your taxes are not assessed properly and that they will help you reduce them. One question I have always had for the people argueing "this can be done for free" is the following;

If you simply fill out a form and send it in to the Assessor for review, do you think they are really going to review their work and say oh yeah we were wrong? Why would the same agency that placed the assessment on your house in the first place think for one second they are wrong?

Now I know people are going to blast me, saying I work for one of these companies and in fact I kind of do, I am currently an employee of the Los Angeles Assessor's office. Here's some inside information for you guys out there, the Assessor only put out these press releases because its an election year for him and he did not tell any of his constituents that a service like this even existed, these private companies did. In fact if you don't believe me go to the Los Angeles Assessor's website and read the press release's. There is not one press release stating this service can be done without mentioning something along the lines "homeowner's have been receiving solicitations...".

My advice to any of you is pay attention to who benifits the most from the appeals service, the private company charging a couple hundred dollars or the state who is broke and does not want homeowners paying less?

I will be checking this board for any questions you may have on this process or any questions you may have on some of these companies, so please ask away. The reason why I can try to answer questions on some of these companies is our office is flooded with their clients appeals so I do know a little about them, however my answers will be limited to what they send us, not who runs them or where they are located, etc.

Oh and one more thing for the board, the Los Angeles Assessor has been saying for months now to just wait to see if your home has been choosen for review, right. Well again a little insider knowledge, every home has been listed for review that was purchased in the last couple of years. However we are not reviewing anything, we are performing our normal duties to get the next tax roll out in time. There is no one over here double checking / reviewing anything, like I said above, why do you think we would change our own work?

yes, i faxed a request to my county and they reassessed my place

resulting last year in a $400 reduction annually. then this year, without me asking, the county reassessed yet again and reduced my property taxes another $1200 per year. For spending nothing, I have had my property taxes reduced by the county twice and only one of those times did I even have to make the request.

please post next time about something you actually know something about, because on this topic, you are ignorant.

"First of all"

Thanks for your inside information and we would very much appreciate your offer for continued updates and answers to questions. UCAN has found a couple of the names of the solicitors & their locations. We understand why you would not want to publish who they are or where they're located. UCAN is definitely not contradicting the fact that government agencies say they are performing extra services for the public when they are not. Please understand that we have strictly been addressing the senior victims who have called us who have owned their homes prior to Prop 13 and therefore, wouldn't be eligible for this type of reassessment. The reason they sent the money to these companies was because 2 of the letters looked so official---exactly like they came out of a real assessor's office (including seals and late fees), that these complainants thought they had to send money. The reasons for not verifying this information varied. Some reported severe disabilities, not being able to hear the recorded prompts and no computers to email or get info that most of us take for granted.

If you have personally spoken with victims, you have probably noticed that even the bar codes were fake. The L.A. Dept. of Consumer Affairs, the San Diego District Attorney's office and the San Diego City Attorney offices recently all gave us consistent information with links to complaint forms, #s to call, and told UCAN numerous charges have been brought against two of the companies within the state of CA.

My one question is: Is it true that if a person who purchased a home from 2003-2008 fills out a form requesting a review, that it is actually done for a period of 5 years? UCAN was told by the San Diego Tax Assessor Office that once the request form is submitted, that their property values are reviewed each year.

Property Tax Reassessment Scam

How is it that they can continue to operate??! Who Is PTR?

HA HA HA

Got a letter from an Los Angeles Post Office. However, the return envelope has a San Diego address. A SCAMMER within a SCAMMER???

To HA HA HA

If you kept the letter and the envelope, please send copies to us by fax, mail or scanning and emailing. Our fax # is 619-696-7477, address is 3100 5th Ave., Ste B San Diego, CA 92103 and email is sue@ucan.org. We haven't seen an LA letter with a San Diego address on the envelope.

Thanks.

Hysteria

I didn't have the time to waste to read all of the posts here. I didn't find one post that stated whether or not they were actually cheated out of cash. After carefully reading the letter I received I could very easily see that it was a non governmental service being offered, to use or not to use. It mentions a service fee at a discounted rate before a certain date and higher fee if you use their services after that date. I also could easily see that I could ignore it and throw it in the trash like any other junk mail. I didn't see anything that shows the company is fraudulent. If someone here sent money in and didn't receive any services, then rail on! Otherwise I just see a lot of mean spirited gossip going on here. This may not be a legitimate company but I can see how some ones innocent reputation can be destroyed by gossip, just like in our media

RE: Hysteria - I was cheated.

I was cheated out of $179. I sent them a check in Dec 2008, cleared early Jan, and have not heard one word from this company since. The form I sent in was the same as others have described; looking exactly like my property tax bill, down to the bar code. I am not a senior; I simply let my guard down and didn't read the fine print. If they actually performed the service they promised then you'd have an argument; since they took my money and haven't done a damn thing then, Hysteria, you're wrong. These companies are stealing people's money. There is no "innocent reputation" at stake. I am in the process of getting mine back but haven't heard back (surprise.)

Hysteria

We can understand that anyone who is not a senior without the capabilities you are lucky enough to have, can clearly see whether or not a service that clearly discloses it's not a government agency, might be helpful to people who don't want to spend the time filling out the simple form. It is not UCAN that called two of these companies scam artists. We did not use that word until it was used by 3 state agencies. Yes, we do have some seniors who paid these companies who clearly would not benefit and did not qualify for the service. Some of these seniors also reported to UCAN that they only got a recording and no one called them back. These folks thought it was due to the state budget crisis that live people weren't available and that no one was available to return calls.

One company in San Diego actually did refund one senior woman's money and she was so very appreciative. A 3rd company named letter we recently received by a San Diegan, clearly disclosed it wasn't a government agency at the top and bottom of the letter and that stopped another senior from sending in money when he had owned his home for 50+ years.

It is hoped that no one can be destroyed by legal agencies purely on gossip. If there is no merit in the evidence of the charges, we would all be horrified to think that our state and country would mandate sanctions, jail or destroy an honorable business.

Property Tax Reassessment

I also want to Thank You for the postings.
I live in Orange County and received a Property Tax Reassessment letter. The letter looks official. It is not dated, but does state a response is due by 5/26/09. If I do not repond by this date the fee goes from $179.00 to $209.00. The address on the letter is P.O. Box 25519, Los Angeles, CA 90025.
Phone #888-879-4259. Again, thank you for keeping us all aware!
Terri

property tax assessment

I live in Orange county. My Property Tax Assessment letter was from P.O. Box 25519, Los Angeles CA, 90025. I have not paid because my wife, who runs our checkbook, asked me if it was a valid request. I have a GREAT wife!

Property Tax Reassessment

I received the letter last week

I moved from California over a year ago (04/01/08) and now I live in Arkansas. I did not own any property in Ca and these people are asking for $189.00 and it says that if I don't pay the amount by 05/15/09 I will have to pay $219.00
The address is:
ANNUAL TAX REASSESSMENT
P.O. Box 341755
Los Angeles, CA 90034
(800) 652-3123

Big Scam

Thank you so much for your comment. The funny thing about this is, I have been calling that 800 number for a couple of days now, and I kept getting that the mailbox was full. Then just today I looked for a website on the form and could not find any. See that's when I knew this was a scam, because just about every Company has a website. I'm so glad that I didn't send them any money!!! Thanks again

Property Tax Reassessment

I received a letter as well. Thank you for your postings. Something about the letter did not look right. I hope that the Attorney General's office for the State of California is involved in this!

Thank you again for taking the time to set this up and keep us informed.

Their tentacles are in Silicon Valley too

I've received today, May 8th 09, their SCAM letter. Does anybody know which agency in Silicon Valley should I contact to report this SCAM,

TIA

Grey Geek

I fell for it

I sent them a check for $179 in February, which they cashed. In April they mailed me an authorization form for them to proceed, which I signed & returned. Meanwhile, a second solicitation arrived asking for $189 for a possible reassessment that was lower than the first. I phoned them 3 times about this, leaving a message, but they did not return my call. This scam is sophisticated, not only in the format and wording, but in the research on homes that they do.

u ppl need to realize!

this company is not a scam. There is actually a company out there that has stolen this companys identidy. The company that IS legitimate has stopped sending out letters. If you received a bill for 179 or 189 or whatever its not a legitimate company. I would know becuase im an employee that works for this company. Im a college student trying to pay for my schooling. I would never work for a company that was a SCAM! My morals would get the best of me. But like i said this other company has taken our name and our phone numbers. And me being a phone rep has to deal with rude ppl like you calling cussing me out when its not even our company. its bull sh*t really. like a lot of the other posts say.. the letter clearly states that your entitled to a refund . and there are many ppl within our company who have been sucessful. It clearly states on the letter that we are a PRIVATE agency. AND that the service is optional. If you fell for a scam... it wasnt our company!

I agree w/u

J00 wouldnt have sent a bill 4 nrly $200 of course not. its bc some1 stole ur id lol
now u realizd they stole ur id and got 2 the pt that even j00 got cond
so ironic they stole ur identity & THEN SCAMD U!!! :lol)

propery tas scam also waiting for refunc

i have been waiting for a refund from them since feb every time i call them which has been 76 times they give me hang ups, rude comments, vulgarity, etcc... my husband and i do not know what to do we have done everything they told us to do make copies front and back of checks, i even sent them 3 copies of letter to them 1 certified, 1registered, and 1 just regular mail if i do not get a phone call back i am taaking them to court please give me some help

property tax assessment scam

We received the annual tax reassessment last weekend and laughed our heads off. We live in an apartment and do not "OWN" any property. We haven't owned any property since 1994. Besides that, the 800-652-3123 number on the letter always has a full mailbox so you can't talk to anyone. The PO box number is different than the other listings I have seen on line at this site. It's po box 341755 Los Angeles, California 90034. These people need to be stopped.

property reassessment scam

I got the letter this weekend as well. Appears to be the same company:

Property Tax Reassessment
PO Box 25519
Los Angeles, CA 92005

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