Time Warner Roadrunner "Turbo" broadband Internet: Are you really getting what you paid for?

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Recently I had to "choose" a broadband Internet provider. After having my "choices" narrowed down for me by a serious lack of competition ( I hear U-Verse is on its way some day), I went with my first, last, and only choice, Time Warner. Despite feeling trapped, the Time Warner customer service rep wooed me with promises of a new broadband paradigm, Roadrunner "turbo." For some reason this "15 Mbps down, 2 Mbps" up Internet was cheaper than the default 8 Mbps/ 1 Mbps option of yesteryear, so I pounced on the deal like a caged tiger given extra scraps of meat at dinner.

All seemed fair. I signed away my first born and promised to tattoo the Time Warner logo on my body, and Time Warner promised to possibly show up in a 4 hour window. After installation, the problems began. I noticed slower loading times than I had previously with Roadrunner.

So I ran a series of speed tests at speakeasy.net. The results showed all servers on Speakeasy returning almost exactly 1500 Kbps, that's 1.5Mbps, Time Warner's basic rate. Not 15 Mbps, 1.5 Mbps. I called Time Warner to chat about the issues with my service, and to see when the "turbo" would take effect.

This is where things get interesting. Apparently, had I never called, I would have simply been provided the basic bandwidth, while paying the "turbo" price. The technical department said that what can happen is that the turbo signal does not "attach" to a particular line that the cable modem is on. The explanation was vague, but the lesson is clear, check the bandwidth you're getting from your broadband Internet provider by using a tool like speakeasy.net, and don't take it for granted that the install was done properly.

This seems to be especially true these days with Time Warner's Roadrunner "turbo" Internet.

Share your story on your broadband Internet provider with everyone below!

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YOUR all wrong!

Did any of you idiots stop a think for one minute that many places you go on the internet have a reason to tell you are getting lower bandwidth......hmmm like speakeasy who sells internet service....there are many reasons why you aren't getting the speeds you think.

Just like cell towers there is SOMETHING CALLED TRAFFIC and just like most people think because they keep getting DROPPED CALLS THEY THINK SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THERE PHONE.....wrong!! a dropped call is from traffic or from a connnection not fully making it from one tower to the next or from that tower being full.....as we continue in this age of technology going 3g / 4g which by the way thats not true either so why don't you start bitchin about that tooo....... it will only get worse thus the need for more bandwidth and more cell towers and more fiber etc etc etc....

its traffic.....interference,.....security......etc etc....do you really think that TWC is going to false advertise their speeds knowing that there is so much information on the internet that one can research.....you all need to get a life!!! TWC rocks!!

You must work for TWC...

as much as your are dick riding them.

Time Warner Turbo Scam: The Real Smoking Gun

Ok, there are lots of theories on this page. Some attack TWC, and a few even defend them. Here's the real proof for whether they are scamming with their alleged 15Mbps "Turbo" speeds. Simply do these tests back to back:

1. go to TWC's own (scammy) speed test site. Mine is: speedtest.oceanic.com

It ALWAYS shows that my speed is 14.5 to 15 Mbps. Hmmm, how can any service be that consistent.

2. Now go to any other test site INCLUDING speakeasy.net or speedtest.net. You need to try many times, and you need to go to a server location OUTSIDE your geographic service area. What you will likely find is that these speeds are all over the map. Not surprising.

3. Now go to one of these sites (thanks Fred):
http://www.america.myspeedtestonline.com/
http://www.auditmypc.com/broadband-speed-test.asp
http://www.ip-adress.com/speedtest/
http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
http://www.my-speedtest.com/speedtest.htm
http://www.voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx
http://performance.toast.net/
http://www.wugnet.com/myspeed/speedtest.asp

What you will most likely find is that the speeds are PERFECT on the local test site (#1), moderate to excellent on the speakeasy/speedtest sites (#2) and poor to moderate on the independent sites (#3).

Here's why:
#1 is given a priority level pass either based on the modem signature, IP address of your router, or the file being accessed for download at their end. All these things are 100% under TWC control and designed to run perfectly. It's not a "lie", but rather a carefully coordinated "true" reading which relies on the TWC service center rolling out a digital "red carpet" for your digital ride to be ensured at max speeds. It's effectively a hoax because it tests only the best case scenario. It does at least prove what your setup is CAPABLE of.

#2 (speakeasy/speedtest) and other high profile sites are (likely) sponsored in part by TWC and (certainly) TWC hosts many of the test sites themselves! So again (as much as possible due to the hops involved), TWC clears the runway for your speed test to show the best possible results. It's not always possible due to the way internet traffic is routed - i.e. not entirely under TWC control. But it gives them an edge.

#3 Alternate sites give the most accurate readings since they are not affiliated with TWC in any way. They are also many times in data centers without the best routers and equipment and may be subject to slower speeds as a result. But this is the REAL internet my friends!

Bottom line: TWC is technically "providing" the services they claim to offer in Turbo, as evidenced by #1 above. But they don't mention the internal throttling mechanisms they have in place to bottleneck your actual bandwidth. It amounts to a bait and switch or false advertising and they certainly should be sued for it in a class action. Count me in.

Followup

BTW, here's a great question to ask your TWC rep when you call to complain. Simply ask: "Why does my bandwidth always show 15Mbps on your site and mixed or lower results on other sites?"

They will for sure reply that they "only have control over the internet from your cable connection (modem) to their service center".

Do not believe them. They have equipment that feeds into their service center not just from your home/office, but from that point into the rest of the internet. Regardless of what they SAY, they DO have control over the speeds at which they connect to the internet at large. If they cannot provide the throughput then their promise of 15Mbps is bogus, even if legally or technically correct.

You call that TURBO?

The PROBLEM is when I use P2P file sharing. Mostly when I open uTorrent and download music or movies I only get 250.0kb/s max. On avg. its more like 50.0kb/s. AND while uTorrent is running I can even surf the internet! What is up with this? Server is in and out, I cant even connect to google's homepage which is the easiest page to get to. The funny thing is, my xbox live works great and my vetflix works fine too. Why would it just be on my downloads? I think TW is capping broadband on downloads. Any thoughts?

road runner lightning service

Well i recently bought light service because i wanted some good internet and No one except a few users on this whole page here ever mentioned ping. Im a gamer and ping sucks... DSl i consistently high ping 200ms and over and my lighting service is nver more than 70 ms and thats on servers located inn ew york. The light service i get gives me 4.5 megabytes download and 450 Kilobytes up thats the equivalent of 35or so megabits. So far ive been happy but recently they keep dropping my internet "DNS server corrupption" Im pretty sure they are just disconnecting the ability to obtain a dns server number because iv had techs down here a few times ow and they all say signal is fine and do their bullshit speedtest.net thing that is most likely boosted by them.... It mysterious how they keep doing this sooooooooo hehe i got my friend who used to work for them and i bought a modem from best buy one of those expensive ones right :D well it works great now and getting 60 megabits speeds no on most speed test servers in the usa. I also found out they update their bandwidth because if u use a modem they provide they have complete control over it and can monitor what your download and upload , basically completely monitor all your internet traffic and can throttle all their customers within a whole area by using their own modems... I'd suggest everyone pays newegg and looks for some personal modems that the user has full control over and changing the login information so RR can't comntrol it remotly. So far i havent had any dropped internet signals and uploads speeds have been great.

Ps i torrent a lot of shit over 300 GBs a month worth and no loss of connection yet that i was previously getting with their modem. oh and as for ming iv seen it go as low as 12 ms with my new modem . I also got a router that is ment for torrenting. It allows for over 250k connections and has the ability to overclock the internal processor to handle more bandwidth with the use of DDWRT firmware :D

Turbo Speeds

Try changing your wireless router channel to 11, if you have dect. phones ect..it can interfere with your wireless router. Give it a shot and see.

Time Warner Speeds

I'm here to set the record straight for all of you bitching and moaning about bandwidth throttling and slow internet speeds. For those of you going out to your local Radio Shack, Bestbuy, Wal-Mart or anywhere else buying gold splitters, crimp-on, or screw on fittings, or even those of you dumb enough to take the fittings off all together and stick stingers in a 3-way splitter 95% of slow internet issues are due to user errors. There is a lot that goes into balancing cable and fiber. Signal levels, QAM's, Frequencies, ingress, engress all play large factors in how well signal is sent or recieved from your devices (Modems). If you think putting 4 splitters behind your TV or in a bedroom to re-route cable to another TV, Modem, or cable box is going to work your wrong. Those passive items create loads of signal loss, and the more splitters you have in line the more loss that occurs from the nodes. Eventually your signal becomes garbage and you start to see intermitent internet, pixilation, tiling etc. I want to also address cable house amplifiers. These can be bought at your local electronic stores. These can only make problems worse. If you are putting an amplifier in to boost your signal because you have problems such as slow internet speeds, pixilation etc. you are only amplifying garbage. Signal levels both (forward and return) have to be balanced at the tap (pole) or anything beyond that point is garbage. So here is what I advise. The next time you have a cable tech come out to your residence to look at a problem, make sure they are climbing the pole and changing the fitting on your line coming in the house. The number one cause of signal related issues with cable is poor fittings. Unfortunatly your average user cant afford a 860DSPI which runs about $3,000, so make sure the service tech is using that meter. Another cause of poor signal is a bad drop (line coming to the house from the pole). If you are having the same problems over and over, then more than likely the drop is bad and needs replaced. Most techs will not changed out the drop unless it's absolutely needed.

In conclusion the next time you want to bad mouth your local cable guy or a company that deals with the complexity of balancing a global network of HD broadcasting, Broadband, and Digital phone frequencies make sure your not one of the "golden splitter" morons out there that just created a couple hours worth of reconstructive work for the tech because you thought you knew what you were doing...

peace out!

done it all.

Hey!

Been there, done that. Balanced and strong signals at the ped. New RG11 to the house. New fittings all around. Internet line on it's own line (2way from the feed) The whole end of town is screwed up. So if they have known of this issue for years,...why am I still paying for a service that can't be delivered by TWC?!

TWC

sup if you are highly tech savvy then i would recommend this link I to pay for "turbo" while comcast gives super high speeds at lower cost although i cant get comcast in my city . check this out http://sbhhacker.net

its http://sbhacker.net

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Roadrunner Turbo Speeds and Slow Down

I have had Roadrunner Turbo for over a year now and have not been able to get even the minimum speed of 15Mb/s that they guarantee. I have just discovered the reason why. When I connect my PC directly to the modem, I get D/L speeds consistently greater than 25Mb/s. But when i connect the modem to my router (have tried 4 different routers as well as a Linux router), my D/L speeds are consistently < 10Mb/s.

It eventually became obvious that roadrunner can detect the OS of the device that is connected to the modem. Hence when I connect a PC (Windows XP PRO) to the modem, I get the advertised D/L speeds. At this point the solution became obvious to me.

I needed a router with a Windows Operating System. So I took a windows box that I had Windows XP Pro SP3 installed on it and installed a second network card (need two Ethernet ports) and a software router package called NAT32.

I connected the main Ethernet port of the PC to the modem, and the second Ethernet port to my LAN Switch and now I have roadrunner turbo speed on all of my LAN computers.

I consistently get > 15Mb/s on any PC on my local area network.

Thank you Road Runner for throttling the D/L speed when connecting to a commercial router.

Whoa your wrong lol

The reason you get faster speeds when connected directly to the modem is because you are not going through a firewall/router/gateway that blocks certain things. When you connect a computer directly to a router you leave yourself very exposed. If you do not believe me take an old computer, put XP on it, don't update it and connect it directly to your modem. Come back in a day and see what kind of crazy shit is going on in there. When you connect a computer this way you almost appear as a beacon of light on the internet.

It has nothing to do with it being a "Windows Router", if such a thing exists. You basically connected some computer to your modem, bridged the connections and decided it was working. You are an idiot.

TWC throttles your connection at the modem. There are ways to modify a modem to open it up so you could theoretically get 15 down 15 up or however much bandwidth is available. See the problem there is as soon as you are cruising at those speeds the blade your connected to is going to freak out and phone home, and then a nice guy in a twc shirt is going to give you a new modem and say there is a problem with yours. In situations like these, deny, deny, deny.

And to further reiterate TWC does not throttle your connection because you are using a commercial router, it is throttled at the modem, and your router, for security reason, will slow this down a bit more.

Hope that helps.

Bluemoo is WRONG LOL

[The reason you get faster speeds when connected directly to the modem is because you are not going through a firewall/router/gateway that blocks certain things. When you connect a computer directly to a router you leave yourself very exposed.] NOT TRUE If you had bothered to check what "NAT32" does, you would know that it is a firewall that can make all ports invisible on the internet.
[It has nothing to do with it being a "Windows Router", if such a thing exists. You basically connected some computer to your modem, bridged the connections and decided it was working. You are an idiot. ] Only an idiot would call another person an idiot without checking out the facts of the posting. But you must be one of those people that thinks they know everything. LOL
[And to further reiterate TWC does not throttle your connection because you are using a commercial router, it is throttled at the modem, and your router, for security reason, will slow this down a bit more. ] Going from >25Mb/s to < 10Mb/s is not slowing down a bit more. You need to read the facts presented in the posting before regurgitating your nonsense. If you had bothered to do a good search on the web, you would have discovered a posting by a TWC customer that was trouble shooting his system on the telephone with a technician. The TWC technician let it slip that he knew remotely when the customer switched his modem connection from a commercial router to a connection directly to a PC. The technician could tell that from the office where he works.
The other thing that you probably don't know is that the reason TWC does not allow the Turbo Speed access through a commercial router is that they want to charge the customer for additional IP addresses (up to a maximum of 3 IPs) for each Turbo Speed connection to a PC. This is accomplished by connecting a Network Switch directly to the modem, and then up to 3 PC's can have Turbo Speed capability with it's own WAN IP address. All you have to do is search the TWC site to find this information, if you can (doubtful). LOL

I am also thinking it has

I am also thinking it has nothing to do with windows. What I have experienced before with older routers is that their processor is not fast enough to process that much information and it's the router that ends up throttling the speed. Test with a new router or put linux in your box to verify this.

Newer Router & Linux Box

I tried a new router a long time ago! I had to buy a new router with 100Mbs on the WAN side of the router as well as 100Mbs on the LAN side. This did not help, I still only got 10Mbs from Road Runner Turbo. But like I said before, when I connect a Windows box directly to the modem, i then could get 25Mbs transfer rates.
Also like I said before, when I connected a Linux box (Linux Router) directly to the modem, I could only get 10Mbs transfer rate, not the 25Mbs rate the windows box could get.
Both of your suggestions were already tried with out any success!

Roadrunner Basic only getting 240kbs on Downloads on any file!

I just had Turbo and the speed tests were all fine. No matter what or where I downloaded, the speed would never ever get above 2MBPS. I just downgraded to Roadrunner Basic. Basic is supposed to get up to 2MBPS. So I thought I would be good now making up for the difference with a lower price. Okay, now the speed tests all show that I do have 2MBPS now. I try downloading from any site. It doesn't matter where. I now only get 240kbps max!!! So what is up with that? I smell a scam. Anyone wanna shed some light on this?

Only one way to check your internet speed with TWC

Forget about speakeasy, speedtest .net etc...The only way to check your current internet speed is to send to yourself (ca.rr.com or roadrunner.com) an e-mail with an attachment file of 10 or 15 megabits.
Use your clock, and see how long it takes to upload the file and to download it.
This test is made directly with Time Warner server. There is no excuse here.
I have Turbo+. Normally around 2 megabits per second upload and 20 megabits per second download , right?
Here are my results for a file of 10 mbps:
1mn for the upload (Normally in 5 or 6 seconds) and 50 sec for the download (Normally 1 to 2 seconds max) if we believe TWC.
I'm far away from the blazing speed announced by TWC. I'm pretty sure all of you are in the same situation.
For what we're paying, nobody is getting these amazing and fictitious speeds.
What proof we need more for a class action law suit?

getting booted in San Diego

Im a gamer. I constantly get booted every half hour or so. This is not the first time it has happen. The last time they swapped my gateway and every thing was fine but it took 20 phone calls and me threatening to cancel, which was a bluff. I have no other choice but a dish. Now its happening again, so I tell them that they need to change my gateway. They still won't change it, they want to tweak a bunch of other stuff that has nothing to do with it. Im so sick of this.

Constand Reboot in Hollywood

I am so tired of the constant dropped signal and reboot in Hollywood. I just can't work at home because nearly every 45 mins my connection is lost.

Really in 2011 this is the best we have in Los Angeles?

Exact same problem here on

Exact same problem here on TWC in Hollywood. Constant drop outs, inconsistent speeds, a continuous traceroute shows erratic latency from 75-800ms on a couple of hops through the roadrunner network.

I am looking at Earthlink DSL - seems they offer 8.0Mbps down here, although i can't find many reviews to quantify how reliable it might be. The maximum that my phone provider AT&T can offer is 3.0Mbps. I had assumed that Earthlink was just repackaging AT&T, or at least using some of the same equipment so I am not sure how they can offer 6 or 8.

same story - Hollywood - Time Warner Class Action suit rally

They have been t my house in the hills 22 times over the past 4 years - they tinker around then hook up their portable laptop to get the speed check claim all is well, then bugger off. Sure enough later in the day i get the same bs.
Slow slow, excruciatingly slow speeds, intermittent lag times etc.
Time warner are a shady bunch of losers who need a class action suit.
They have monopolized this market area and are ripping us off with a corporate smile.
WTF!

nothing but problems

im stuck with tw because there is nothing else in my area. my city wasnt put on the list for the fiber optic government plan because were a poor city cleveland. theres about 2 or 3 other places who charge 60 dollars for 2m download. so tw gives me 15 download. the problem is im always being disconnected every 10 minutes. ive had tw for over 5 years and had nothing but continuous disconnections. i finally turne din my modemn for a new one, the disconnections stopped for 2 days then right back. i get disconnected from every game i play or when im filling out forms online i get disconnected. i dont bother calling for a tech to come out because i hate waiting 6 hours for them to not even show, or they dont know wtf there doing, or they send someone who hired from a diff company or the tons of other bullcrap. oh and by the way they wanna charge 30$ now to send a tech out to fix something that is THERE problem. its not like im fiddling with the telephone lines outside. if im paying already for the service why do i have to pay even more for them to fix there problem?

also you can never tell what your real speed is because tw uses burst speed which means the first minute it send rapid top speed and then after that it drops down 5 times slower so itll go from 15 to 2. this tricks the speed tests and makes u think your getting a 15 constant speed but your not.

turbo/powerboost speed, is it for real? or is it memorex?

everyone is so correct. im not a puter wiz but i do know the difference when it comes to computer speed. i just came back to time warner after a few years in hiaddis, but back then before turbo i guess i just had basic, and it was alot faster than this, wich makes me think back when time warner was proposing to make accessive internet users pay extra for internet usage, and now here they come with this turbo, and turbo with power boost, this has got to be a flook. i know this computer of mine is alot faster than this, it's packed with all the latest and fastest.
so glad i found this page. i called time warner but to no avail, i keep getting the run around, hell i guess there getting so sick of me contacting them i can't even log onto (myservices) anymore.
again thanks, good to see it's not just me.

LA Timewarner Speed Test

I have timewarners 10mbp plan. On speakeasys' and speedtest
i test back 19to20 Mbps Download and just under 1mbp of Upload here in Los Angeles. But when i go to dsl reports
http://www.dslreports.com/tools
Under (flash) -linkline LA i get 6to7Mbps
but under java i get back 19mbs download
whats the cause of this. Which is accurate

The reason you get different

The reason you get different results is because you are getting your speed tested in different servers. Every location is different.

Roadrunner

You need to call Time Warner back and tell then that you upgraded to Roadrunner Turbo and you fully expect to receive this upgrade for FREE, for a YEAR. That's what's being advertised on TV. So you may not have received what you expected, but having your Internet Service for free, for a year, might make it feel a little better. The TV advertisement is very clear...."If you upgrade to Roadrunner Turbo Broadband, you will receive it free for a year." Your information was helpful to me since I was thinking of upgrading to Turbo myself. Now that I know it's meaningless, I may just upgrade to get it free for a year....now THAT would make it worth it!! Thanks again.

Lack of upload

I have had RR form time warner cable in LA for about a year now. Today got a nice treat, a upgrade from my cisco 2100 modem to a SBG6580. I took her out for a spin and I notice I am now getting about 50 to 80 MB down load, before only 18mb but the upload still stays the same at about 1.9 mbs. I am wonder if it is because they have 3 down load streams and only one upload stream. My router can handle up too 8 down load streams and 4 up. I hope in the future they will be adding more streams so I will get a better upload.
I currently pay the 59.99 amonth for time warner Plus Turbo. I do get more then they promiss.

Fake results with Speed Test - Here is the proof.

Did you notice that the techs from Time Warner always send you to speedtest.net or speakeasy.net or their own website for your speed test?
Well, sorry but 95% of TWC customers are fooled by the results.
The 3 websites give you between 10 and 20 mbps in download and 1 to 2 mbps in upload, it depends on what kind of plan you have, right?
When you read the results you're satisfied, right?
But in the reality, when you're downloading or uploading from different servers you are far from this "blasting" speeds, right?
It's simple, it's an ugly conspiracy and a thievery. Why? because there is a booster behind these servers installed by Time Warner techs to give you false results. Let me explain.
My plan is a Turbo+ and a Mac G5 desktop which means I should be getting between 18 to 20 mbps in download. My results with Time Warner website, speekeasy.net and speedtest.net is between 20 mbps and 25 mbps in download... WOW!! ...... Great! you'll say, but, mysteriously, when I make a test with other websites (and they are legion), I get a maximum of 3 to 6 mbps in download and this result is completely accurate with my actual download. Believe me I did several tests and I downloaded and uploaded different size and kind of files from different servers.
My question is why all this websites are accurate and saying the same thing in term of speed except speekeasy.net, speed test.net and Time Warner website?
I reported that to Time Warner, the answer was, "sorry we don't use these websites for our speed test"... Yeah right!!!! It's much easier to still our hard earned money by faking the results.
The proof is bellow and it's your turn now to try any of these 8 speed test websites like I did and compare the results you have with Time Warner or Speedtest.net or Speakeasy.net. You'll see that the results are more accurate with your actual speed and you'll be enraged.
Please count me in for any class action law suit.
http://www.america.myspeedtestonline.com/
http://www.auditmypc.com/broadband-speed-test.asp
http://www.ip-adress.com/speedtest/
http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/
http://www.my-speedtest.com/speedtest.htm
http://www.voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx
http://performance.toast.net/
http://www.wugnet.com/myspeed/speedtest.asp

Conspiracy?

Twc doesn't own or operate any of those spouted speedtest sites (except for roadrunner). Speedboast is a bandwidth optimizer that's installed in the modem's firmware & it's something twc advertises openly. I work in the highest level of support for twc & have worked for verizon 90% of most slow speeds are caused by enduser equipment & software. Some of the causes I've verified starting from most common have been filesharing programs, spyware, firewalls, routers(configuration), wireless router interference, voip (vonage), traffic issues on website our server not of twc & insufficient computer resources. When we run a diagnostic test if the network is at maximum utilization we get an alarm letting us know & engineers are alerted. In the years and various isp's I've worked with I've only seen this problem 3 times. What's overeating is how many people I talk to that claim to be "IT pros" but barely know how to find out what OS there using. There's also others that have a vauge knowledge but have no idea how to use it. A great example is how trace routes are read. Just because you get one hop that has a high number but subsequent ones are fine is not a latency issue. Only if subsequent hops stay high is it a problem. Even then if it takes place outside of the twc
hops there's nothing anyone can do since its on the www side we don't control. For those of you who don't believe me google search on how to read a trace route.
I can't pave the blame all on some of the customers. There was a time not typo long ago whee we where motivated & encouraged to give"first call resolution" & our raises where daed on it, now our performance is rated on how fast we can finish a phone call. I've seen where agents who are fast on the phone get employee of the month and get prizes but have seen agents who the customer gives a compliment for fixing a long occurring issue be reprimanded to taking too long on the phone. Out of 10 handle time is given a weight of 7 vs quality of service is only 3. These performance evaluations wil also dictate or raise & seniority standing when biding for shifts. That being explained its no surprise why customers are becoming more dissatisfied.I used to love my job since the emphasis had been on quality of service but with all the changes and customers getting worse I don't feel that way anymore. To make matters worse we use outsourcing in other countries that make problems worse since they get paid pet call they take which is why I'm hearing more customers complain about being transfered excessively. Most on in house reps want to help & keep customers happy but that's not what we're encouraged to do. A good way to tell if a rep is bsing is if they set up a tech to go out immediatly without checking things or asking questions or refuse to give you their agent ID after you ask for it. Remember please that we have to follow the company policy & we are not the ones who make it up. please help us help you by cooperating in troubleshooting like bypassing your router.this helps not to waste your time & avoids a charge on your account if we send a tech out for a problem caused by your equipment or software. If you really want to make solve an ongoing problem do this, if ask else fails write a letter to the office of the president which the address can be found at timewarnercable.com under "contact us". Please don't take it out on the rep that has no say in the policies our procedures he or she is required to follow. If reps keep getting abused for something they can't control then no one will want to do this job & outsource companies inn the philippines & argentina will take over and it'll get worse. Please let me know if I left something out or if you habe a question.

Really?

For someone who works "...in the highest level of support for twc...", you can't even use a simple program to spell check your web babble. We are all dumber now for having read your comment. May God have mercy on your soul.

Time Warner Cable Ripping off customers

After over six months of patiently dealing with Time Warner Cable on internet speed issues as well as intermittent digital phone problems I am throwing in the towel and switching to a more reliable and honest company. Despite paying for Road Runner Turbo, premium cable and two phone lines I cannot get them to fix the known problems that exist in my neighborhood that cause unreliable phone service and slow internet speeds. I have had techs to the home multiple times over a six month period. In the beginning they tried to deny any systemic problems existed in this area. Finally after having techs come out multiple times and playing their deny the problem exists game I got an honest tech he admitted that they have known issues in my area and that he has other people complaining of the same types of problems. My internet speed is often less than 3mbs per second and some days less that 1 mbs! My digital phone continues to have ongoing voice problems caused by the high signal to noise ratio that Time Warner has finally after six months of complaining acknowledges exists. What is there solution when I called today to complain again....to send another tech out even though the last two times he has said the the same thing...the problem is someplace on this node not in my home or the drop to it. While charging me for three years for turbo speed which they have never delivered they now want me to be more patient and wait longer for them to fix a known issue all while taking my money and never compensating me for the billing me for services they knowingly cannot provide. The one honest tech who has been out on the last two service calls admits that they do not have the bandwidth in this area to handle the customer base and deliver the speeds but keeps giving me the company line that they are working on it and doing upgrades and if I am patient they will get it revolved. Well after over six months my Patience has run out. Time Warner Cable should be sued in a class action lawsuit for deceptive advertisement, knowingly billing customers for services they are unable to provide. They are the worst case example of a large corporation ripping off millions of customers by promising a service they cannot reliably deliver.

Bad speeds as well

We normally get good speeds from RR, but this week, we've been getting .68Mbps when we should be getting 10. Normally we get 3-5Mbps. We have standard and have never had a problem till now. It's crawling from at least 9am until past 10pm. My husband did the online chat and email with them....they had him do stuff that's not even related, like delete cookies . We are in Florida and will be calling them tomorrow about down grading since we're not getting what we are paying for in the first place. Maybe that will shake things up. Will post again to let you know how it goes.

I really wish TWC would

I really wish TWC would upgrade their "Turbo" speeds. 2Mbps? Come on, my AT&T 3G can easily get more than that.

I live in west Texas, and usually when I do a speed test, I can get at least 12Mbps download and 1.75Mbps upload. Then again, I'm connected to my wireless-N router and am fairly far away from it. When I'm closer, or if I'm hardwire to the router via gigabit Ethernet, I can sometimes hit 22Mbps down (as someone else had mentioned) and a constant 1.75Mbps upload. I'm very satisfied with the download speeds, but the upload speeds leave a lot to be desired.

Internet speed levels

Well I need help. I was supposed to get Road Runner Turbo with my triple play for $99. Although when i called they told me that when they made the order they had written this in my original order but when when they rescheduled the order, they had not written that I was supposed to be supplied RR Turbo. They told me I had to have a certain pin number to be able to change anything in my account. I did not have the number at the time so I decided i would call later. 1 hour later I called. I told them i was getting Standard Package speeds when i should be getting Turbo speeds.This time i gave them the account number instead of the pin. Then they told me that i was supplied with Earthlink and that Earthlink is usually never given when you order the triple play. She told me that Earthlink had something similar but that would cost I believe $20 more. Is there really nothing to do in this situation except get Earthlink's faster package?

Road Runner :)

Well for me it seems to be the opposite, i live in south texas and during the day my download speeds have gotten up to 2 megs per second, when using an internet speed test i reach up to 22.2 mbps. On the other hand my upload speed is real slow, when uploading i reach only speeds of 40 kbps, i hate this kind of speeds, but oh well im happy with my download, and im paying only $50, for interter and phone service.

Post the speed and times via youtube

What part of south texas do you live in? If you could please post a link to a vid of the times and speeds.

I think I could one-up that.

I think I could one-up that. We pay for an All-in-One package but they insist we are signed up for "Lite" bandwidth (which isn't offered in an AIO to my knowledge, only if it's separate). On top of this, the "Lite" bandwidth is 1 Mbps, but we have not once exceeded 160 Kbps, or 0.16 Mbps (this means the maximum I get is 20 KB/s and usually it's more like 11 KB/s). I haven't personally called about this because my name is not on the bill, but we have called in about it and apparently we have twisted their arm and nothing.

I can't even work with this. I often find myself tethering my phone to my PC and using my AT&T 3G connection (unlimited data plan) which is literally 10 times as fast (the only problem is I have limited signal at home).

This is the only downside to being home from college, where I have Gigabit access to the internet (and I can literally download 1 GB in under a minute there). Oddly enough my college also uses Time Warner, but I imagine they don't try to screw over an entire institution when they make enough screwing over individuals.

http://www.telecomtv.com/coms

http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=47339&id=e9381817-0593-417a-8639-c4c53e2a2a10

Slow download speed

I have been having problems going on about 2 months now with the download speed fluctuating. It's about the same thing that all of you are having as well as others on Youtube. I have provided a link so you can see my videos in documenting this problem. This is a nationwide problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmEVZbeZsWE

Alliance Ohio Area RR

I like everyone else have been experiencing problems during periods of the day with my speeds going from more than satisfying to unacceptable. Of course this always happens at the worst times of the day and I am told by "Tear 3" at RR that the problem is being worked on and will be resolved. I have always been very satisfied with the way there reps treat me and they are all very nice people that are trying to be helpful. But after finding this site and seeing the list of people that are having problems and looking at how far back these problems have been happening I am skeptical. It is true that if you call and complain and a nice respectful way they credit your account for about 50 percent of your RR cost. However this takes a 50 min on average phone call. I began looking at the average speeds of other countries just to make sure that I am not spoiled and crying over spilled milk and found that the USA is very lacking to say the least. If you compare what other countries are getting to the cost they are paying we are getting the short end of the stick for sure. I realize that the usage of digital information is growing so fast that from Time Warner's stand point it is probably almost impossible to keep up but it appears there is no plan to do so let alone get ahead. For now they are the only game in town. I see Verizon is installing Fiber Optic in some densely populated areas where they are providing unbelievable up and down load speeds cheaper than what my bill is with RR. If they continue that trend maybe we will have another option coming our way soon.

Youngstown Ohio Area RR

I too live in NE Ohio and internet speeds are a joke. I am paying 59.99 for RR Turbo and I'm lucky toi get 3mb down between 9am and 11pm. Even after midnight, speeds are still slow. I have escalated this to TW many times and as usual, they replace the modems like they're candy. No help. I personally think that TW is purposely misleading their customers and using inaccurate speed tests to justify their service. If there ever was a time and place for a class action lawsuit, this is it.

If you know of a lawyer who

If you know of a lawyer who is willing to take it on I will jump on with you on that class action lawsuit. The more the better. If we could get it going nationwide it would be great.

Odd about Road Runner Ohio

I had Roadrunner for 6 years and I only expirenced the issues you guys faced during outages which is usually rectified in 1-2 days. Usually I get near max download and upload speed. I initially took standard Roadrunner which at the time offered 7 Mbps by 512Kbps and I usually got 7 Mbps by 500 Kbps. When I signed up for Turbo when it was offered at 15 Mbps by 768 Kbps, I usually got 14.44 Mbps by 750-60 Kbps. Now I think they planning on upgrading the speed because I am getting 20-21 Mbps by 772 Kbps instead of around 15 Mbps by 768 Kbps. I hope they upgrade the upload speed this time because I am more than happy with my download speed.

How to get the most out of Time Warner Internet

I had AT&T DSL for one year, the speeds were slow - 1.5mbps down and 1mbps up - but the speeds were always consistent. I decided to drop my satellite tv and go internt and wireless only so i knew i needed high speed service. Like everyone else, i had only a couple choices in my area, and what's worse, AT&T U-verse only offered a speed of 6-12mbps in my area, which is not fast enough. So i had only one choice, Time Warner.

I went with the standard service of 0 to 30mbps - no hope for consistency here. Within the first month of service I started to get a regular outtage every day from 4 or 5 in the afternoon to 8 in the morning. This happened for 3 weeks while multiple tech people came and changed my modem 4 times, they changed the cable running to my house. Finally, a maintenance call was done on the lines at the telephone poles in my whole neighborhood and they found the problem - a bad connector at one of the boxes that was just loose enough that the cold of night caused a lost connection and the warmth of day brought the connection back.

Since having my service fixed I have gone one month with no issues, and my speeds are clocking in at 10mbps to 25mbps down and i pay for the standard service. There are still times of the day were the speeds drop to 1-3mbps, but it's usually brief. I can run multiple computers and wireless devices at the same time and have no issues. I watch HD quality movies through a Roku about 50ft from my wireless router and have no problems.

I should also mention that with the many phone calls I had to make to TW customer service I made sure to ask for credits for my 3 weeks of bad service and I did get about 1 month ($45) credit. You just have to be relentless with your request and treat the service people kindly. It's not their fault the company sucks, they're just paid hourly workers who have no control over protocol.

I used to pay $40/month for the AT&T dsl, so to pay $45/month for the TW internet that averages 5 to 10 times faster is the best deal I can hope for until we have more choices in my neighborhood.

Remember: if you have problems, CALL TW! Schedule a tech appointment. Be nice to the tech and get him to request a maintenance call to your neighborhood. The maintenance guys have the know how to fix the problems. The techs just swap out modems.

Same problem here with the internet speed with Time Warner.

I have the same problem with Time Warner about my turbo plan.
They're stilling people.
We are not having the right internet speed for what we pay.
I can prove it and show it technically speaking.
The only think Time Warner is good at, is to tell you to make a test with speakeasy.net. Be aware, they put a booster behind it to fool people.
Of course with speakeasy you get 20 mbps but is not true! you're maximum at 5, 6 or 7 mbps and you're paying for 10 up to 20 mbps for turbo and turbo plus. If we are so numerous and frustrated, what are we waiting for a class action law suit?? If there is one and I'm not aware off, I'll be happy to ad my unfortunate experience with Time Warner.

Add me to Lawsuit

Add me, I'm tired of being raped by TW

your all full of shit.

I got roadrunner turbo and i get 27MB/s download and 2.3MBps upload in california during peak hour, i had the same problem but i called TwC and told them hat i upgraded and that my connection was still the same and they did something to it and i instantly went to speedtest.net and got over 27....

speedtest.net? That isn't

speedtest.net? That isn't reliable as RoadRunner pipes you directly to them so it looks like you get faster results.

Roadrunner

I also have turbo if you want to call it that. Its Good in the morning but thats it been to my house at least 10 times. A lot of modem changes they claim i have the best modem commercial. but lines are conjested and roadrunner extreme is comming wow. thats fine but im not even getting turbo ha ha. They do give me refunds but i want the turbo not going to happen. So the last time a guy came to my house i told him i would probably get the extreme so i would be where turbo is at. he told me are you crazy if your not getting what you pay for now why would you. I said you know your right. I keep hoping another provider comes out my way. Today you never get what you pay for. Thats all for now

Time Warner

I have, in addition to significant drops during peak hours, seen a strong correlation in additional decreases in line quality and speed when TW has sales promotions. So we the customers are in a very real sense, paying for their new customers reduced sign-up rates with a degradation of our services. I will say TW service technicians are great at making up reasons and excuses, which are always beyond their control, as to why a customer is not getting the service they pay for.

Some people may not recall the early days of dial up ISPs, AOL (which later bought Time Warner, and then TW sold off AOL) was one of the leaders. They played the same tricks of over selling their capacity back then. They offered free local call connections when most ISP connections also meant paying for a long distance call to reach their servers. AOL got tons of people signing up. The problem was you had to dial 15 to 20 times before you got a connection. Then within a few minutes of making the connection, the system would usually disconnect, leaving the user to make another 15-20 calls to get on line. When customers complained about this, AOL always said it was due to the customers faulty phone lines.

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Road Runner consistntly slows at non peak times.

I live in a suburb of Los Angeles. I've noticed over the past month or so that RR standard download speeds drops from around 10 Mbps to under 1 Mbps around 10 pm pacific time. I've checked to see if the speed picks up at 7 or 8 am in the morning...nope. In fact some mornings I don't have connectivity at all! When I return from work around 5 or 6 pm, speeds are up to 10 Mbps again. Didn't reset the modem or anything. (Although, most of the time I try that, nothing changes.) Keep in mind that the upload speed remains the same at about 900Kbps. Am I to somehow think that 3 am local time is a peak activity period? And for downloads only? I've also noticed the connection slows instantaneously. It doesn't gradually get slower. It simply IS slower at one discrete point in the later evening. I propose they are CHOOSING to reduce that connection speed at a specific time. I pay $30 a month to Verizon for somewhat slow internet access 24/7 on my Droid. How is it I pay more a month (almost $50) to the bums at Road Runner for inconsistant internet access at home? Is it time to start calling the decision makers at Time Warner con artists and crooks? I say, "YES!"

I was experiencing the same

I was experiencing the same problem with speeds dropping way down on RR, but mine started happened at 2pm until after 4pm during the week day. Their tech support is a script/lip service, just unplug the modem and turn off the computer, etc.. you know where I'm going with this. The old read from your training manual drill to passify the customer. I had the cable technician come out a couple of times and they found no problems, because they never came out at 2pm-ish. Then I demanded a scheduled appointment for them to come out at 2PM on a day I knew it would happen again, and it just so happened the speeds dropped below 1Mbps down and less then 1Mbps for upload. The technician ran a series of test and came to the conclusion that the RCA Cable Modem was bad. So he swapped it out for a NetGear, and I have less headaches since. I have some smaller issues with speed now and then, but nothing major like it was doing. The Cable Modems are second hand and they pawn them off as they are good. Of Course, Problems are bound to happen with any used equipment or New stuff that's made in China for that matter. Cheap Electronics cause headaches.

Same Experience

Every weekday @ 4pm my internet nosedives down to unacceptable speed levels. Internet pages timeout, emails loose connection before being sent, etc., suddenly with no gradualness about the crash. I have had the modem swapped out by TWC, still no solution. any ideas?

I have had some pretty

I have had some pretty remarkable problems with Time Warner and Road Runner for the past three months and have had techs to my house and have complained on the phone numerous times. I live in LA and Speakeasy shows my downloads at 20mbps and my uploads at 2mbps but actual time it takes websites to load is incredibly slow. One tech finally admitted to me that Time Warner specifically sets up Road Runner to test very well while in no way performing at those speeds when using the actual internet. I felt relieved that I wasn't crazy and sad that I am stuck with Time Warner.

The speed of Time Warner Turbo is not as promised by T W

Speed for the Turbo should around 15 mb/sec download and upload of 2 mb/sec but I am getting varying figures for upload and download at various times. Best part is max download speed till now i have seen is 10 mb/sec and .96 /mb/sec upload.

I dont know what to say there is no option to go by when i complained to customer service a tech came and asked to complain again if i am not satisfied. I dont know what kind of world we are living . just because of monopoly these guys are not giving the due service to us.

Don't Fire your cable company

Quite frankly, DSL will NEVER be able to compete with Cable again. If you live in an area where DOCSIS 3.0 has been implemented, then you're already too advanced for any form of DSL to compete with you. DOCSIS 3.0 has the ability to change frequencies IF the network were to get too burdened with traffic which kills the last DSL argument of stability. I test @ 93mbps downstream on speakeasy.net and I can already pay for a 50mpbs package (meaning the network won't cap my speed on larger file downloads). I urge all people who don't like their internet to a.) either change to a DOCSIS 3.0 modem or b.) make sure when you test, its your computer directly to the modem and not through a router, that way you know if you just need a new router, because most routers MURDER internet connection speed and weren't designed to transfer over 10mpbs internet speed (even if they have 300mbps network speed).

Time Warner Internet Service

Awful service. I came to live in Western New York after moving early last year and I never had any problems prior to moving. It's the only service available here and I suffer many interruptions to my internet service. I'm sick of calling them and tired of the techs coming out to my home and being told that there's nothing wrong with their equipment. I travel all over the west Coast and Canada and never suffer any interruptions. The most telling thing for me is that I was on the beach in Aruba and never suffered any interruptions to my internet service. I long for the day that I can throw-out this service out and get somebody else in. They have upgraded my modem and I now pay more for the same poor service. AT&T have a service thru a flash drive, but will this give me sufficient speed as they charge $59.00/month.

ME TOO!

I upgraded to TURBO...and am paying ??? $$$ more...........
and i had the funny feeling it wasn't any fast than regular roadrunner.
I was right.....and so are all of you.
This is a great consumer ripoff..........
Higher, blazing speeds my a**.

TURBO???

I did not upgrade,"they" upgraded me automatically because I "checked" out a piece of equipment from "their" (TWC) service center. I wanted to run 2 towers off 1 modem and called TWC tech support and "they" told me all that I needed to do was go to a TWC service center and check out a wired/wireless router at NO extra charge to me, and I asked several times if I would find extra charges on my itemized bill. The servive tech told me point blank NO. I am guilty of not paying close attention to my itemized bill, I just look at the bottom line and pay, not anymore. My family as many others are feeling the economic crunch and as a cosequence are more conscious of the itemization of the bottom line. I was paying bills and noticed that TWC had been charging me for TURBO for 6 months because I had checked out the router from their service center when I was told repeatedly that I would not be charged. We had originally agreed to pay for the 7bps not TURBO 15bps. I pinged my TURBO connection then called TWC had them "remove " TURBO from my service plan and pinged it again, no difference? I called TWC service center 7 times before I connected with an operator that was willing to make things right. In the end the operator credited my account for 6 month's of TURBO charges which I did not agree to in the first place. When will TWC be broken up as Ma-Bell was in the early 80's?

TWC-Charlotte Awesome! *sarcasm*

I live in the Charlotte, NC area and our Time Warner Internet stinks also. I have been a Road Runner subscriber back when I was paying 45 bucks for High Speed Internet. Now 7 years later, I am still paying 45 bucks and I have one of the slower packages. Do the math. 45 x 1 million customers at least a month, that's 45 million dollars at least a month for a free World Wide Web and they have slow speeds! What are we paying for? Im sure it cost TWC money to buy new servers, but come on at least use some of that money to keep your customers happy. There should be no reason that their servers get overloaded. With the money we pay, they should have extra servers in place so there would not be an overload. Its like today, almost all of the business's were closed because of the snow we got. I had to log into work from home. ok, let me rephrase that. I had to log into work about 30 times because there slow connection kept kicking me offline. I finally gave up. I understand everyone and their mothers were online today, but we pay them money so that TWC keeps us happy, not the other way around.

The main problem is that most of us have to use TWC Internet and they know it!

Its the HOPS Stupid..

Like many on here I too have serious lag issues and was tortured with the standard TW runaround. I have RR HS 1.5 MBPS no turbo.
A free MMO I was beta testing sent me a program called PINGPLOTTER.

The server I was trying to connect to in Euro zone was 19 hops which is 19 servers on the internet my signal was passing through.
Standard ping speed was 25 to 60 ms which is not to bad. The problem is packet loss and I mean complete loss for 15 to 20 seconds
every 2 to 5 minutes when it's at it's worst. Charlotte NC was the problem hop and so I called RR to see if they can do anything..

RR is only in charge of the first 6 hops from my location after that it's not their problem the server in NC is run by level 3.
Montreal Canada is another bad hop as I use skype and it cuts off constantly every 2 minutes or so..
Want the truth about your internet connection??

Get pingplotter as they give a 15 day free trial and will open your eyes to the evil doers
that make up the infrastructure of the RR service. If I could use another isp I would.
I live in a small town so I guess TW thinks us small folk won't notice... WRONG!!

Internet bandwidth speed

Since Dec. 23, 2010, the internet speed has been a crawling 1.92-1.68 Mbps. When I bought the service I was promised anywhere from 8-10 Mbps. I've called several times, the answer: "We have an outage in your area. The Tech. Suppt. doesn't have more information. Would you like to call us when it is resolved?"

It's Dec 28 today, haven't had any calls from Time Warner, it's still NOT resolved. I did the chat session today, still no idea when it will be back to 8or 10 Mbps. In the meantime if you call them after it is fixed, you may get credit for the times you couldn't use the service properly.

If anyone has more information, please POST it here.

intermittent internet service

We are in the Cincinnati OH area and have had spotty internet service for months. It's not the SPEED that's a problem, it's that we have NO service...and I work from my home most days! ...and my kids need to do homework from an online source from their public high school. It takes us HOURS to do anything, because we can't get the internet service at all!

We've been told to replace our router, THREE times, which we did, then TW replaced the connections, then the cable bringing service to our home and now we're told an entire line in our area must be replaced.

In the meantime, we get spotty (little to no) service most days and feel grateful when we get any internet service, even if it is slow.

TW was calling weekly to check in with us and give us updates. Now, we don't hear anything from them and we wait....and wait.

We've heard that Zoomtown is available but uses the same lines, so don't know if it's worth switching internet carriers. Does anyone know about this?

good piece

well, that's a good way to kick things off...
The difference between failure and success is doing a thing nearly right and doing a thing exactly right.
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slow road runner

I have had road runner now for about a year and i halve to have a tech here about every month because the speed drops off below 1 mb and i am paying for turbo,TW gave me the turbo for the same price as regular which is suppose to me around 7 mb per second,i have for about three weeks now seen my speeds go up and down i have used a lot of different speed testing web sites but thy give almost the same readings and i rarely see 15 megs.
.Here lately my speeds have been under 1 meg,When ever i call the tech support thy send someone out here to test the wires and modem which is not the problem.I think the problem lies @ the servers, i think that Time Warner knows all about the problem which is that there is to many people on the overloaded sectors. If your are new to speed test, you can use toast.net,pcpitstop.net,internetfrog.com or speakeasy .net.I like toast .net because you can test upload and download separate or as one and you can test at places all over the world.
If time Warner is selling us something that we are not getting and thy know that thy are, just watch and see it there are any class action law suites in the future, i live in Ohio and i just heard that we are ranked @ 46 th in the nation for slow internet speeds,Why don,t we have more internet providers to choose from for service?,all of the are other utility's you can choose from different company's?

Slow RR_Ohio

In reference to your slow TWC RR speeds, you are not alone. We are in the Orange Co, CA area and many heavy internet users have the same complaints, INCLUDING us!

The City we live in has a "sole source" contract with a cable provider and that is TWC. We escalated this to the City, threatening a lawsuit (due to losing a great deal of money, on our investments. as a result of VERY slow or NO signals! - REPEATEDLY). Our issue was escalated to the Office Of the President, TWC and has been ongoing for over 3 years! The conclusion we came to was that TWC has escalated their level of service to our account to cover themselves in the event of the aforementioned lawsuit. While we have had senior Tech Support out here, we have reminded them that their SpeakEasy tests are NOT TRUE speed tests. When we ran our Vonage speed tests (simulated load, more accurate speed tests) as well as other sites that run simulated load tests, they would stubbornly refer back to their SpeakEasy test. OUR tests (Vonage, etc) consistently produce 2-5 Mbps download speeds. TWC refuses to acknowledge this or our explanation (again, due to their attempts to derail any possible lawsuit, that COULD have class-action implications!).

Bottom line: when it comes to heavy applications or usage in many areas, TWC is inferior. Their advertising is misleading, inaccurate and false, under "REAL world" conditions. Until ALL of us (NO matter what part of the Country you're in!) actively lobby for more competition, we will all be subjected to TWC's (Roadrunner) continuing false, misleading, damaging and abusive marketing tactics. Dissatisfied TWC are strongly encouraged to write 1) their local municipality (usually "Utiliities" but Mayor and Council Members are more effective), 2) local political employees (i.e. Congressmen, Senators) and 3) FCC (Chairman and Board).

Over a barrel UK rates cheaper, it all depends...

http://paler.com/uk_broadband_internet_access.html 15lb = $24

Ookla Net Data

Ookla is the standard TW uses to measure internet speeds of their service.
For customer service in general, TW is terrible. I was paying for turbo then
decided to go standard. On average my DL speed increase slightly and UL
slightly dropped running 3 tests during peak hours. I do not trust TW.

http://www.netindex.com/
http://www.ookla.com/speedtest.php

http://gizmodo.com/5390014/internet-speeds-and-costs-around-the-world-shown-visually

loousy Time Warner, roadrunner service

The speed of my downloads has dropped a lot!!!
it takes several minutes to get brighthouse roadrunner up and ready to go...ie just the sign-in process. Its terrible.
And, yes, they kicd me off the internet, it seems as random! What gives?
The service is terrible....the truty amazing concept of a 'monopoly'...i cant' wait for some competition to arrive on the internet scene.

time warner an turbo package issues

i am like all other citizens i upgraded to turbo an i havent had no changes lagging an freezing unapproppiate an inconvieniences i want services that i pay for an expect ive had techs come to my home claiming things are ok but they are not if these issues are world wide as it seems to be then they need to provide worldwide maintenence to correct the problems for some of us internet is the only means of communication because wehave magic jack an it wont work correctly due to errorfrom the internet all i want is dependable service an quality i can be happy with to some 110.00 is alot to pay for cable an internet we deserve to get best service that can be provided i enjoy cable time warner i want to enjoy my internet as well

Constant Roadrunner Turbo reboots are killing me!

Horrible service!

After the second multi-day service outage in as many months I had endured, a service tech came to my house and replaced the modem. He upsold me to the RR Turbo boost service which sounded good at the time. But after "upgrading" to RR Turbo, I found that I would experience daily internet reboots and interruptions particularly around peak use periods (between 4-9pm). The service would be working fine, but then randomly cut off and restart. This never happened when I had the RR standard service. It's my guess that this is something they automatically do to interrupt large file downloads that eat up bandwith during peak usage. I have no other explanation for it. The modem works fine, and this doesn't happen outside of peak periods, but between 4-9pm I can expect to have my internet interrupted regularly. I hate TW.

RE: RE: Constant Roadrunner Turbo reboots are killing me!

NOPE! Not the modem. Call Time Warner and have them check your service. they may have messed up when adding Turbo to your account. This exact thing happened when i upgraded to ATT Elite from basic. they told me someone they had to correct a mistake in the computer, check line quality, and reset connection. Since you dont need a phone line with TW, then maybe its just the "wrong thing punched in the computer" thing for you. I know ATT and TW are different, but its the exact same problem, between the same time frame, so I'm sure the solution should be the same.
Just call them, tell them the problem, and dont let them tell you something is wrong with the modem or your computer because its not! Its something wrong on THEIR end!

RE: Constant Roadrunner Turbo reboots are killing me!

Time Warner does not "automatically cut off and restart" service randomly when you have RR Turbo. Based upon your post I would assume that there is an issue with your modem, or their may be an area-wide issue with the CMTS you are being serviced by.

ohio

I switched from WOW to TW about 2 yrs ago. I had major problems for several months. At first they tried to blame my wireless routetr. I explained it wasn't a problem w/WOW. They came out, tested lines and I had a very low signal, they replace cable. Next time they put in a "booster". When it was all said and done from August til April, I had all new cable, a booster and brand new cable in the entire neighborhood. They said the cable was very old. It works fine most of the time. I did a speed test for my "turbo" I am getting anywhere from 8.6-17.2mbps. u/l never went over .68. The price is what is out of hand now. I pay approx. $130. per month. I'm calling to see if they will macth the WOW offer i now have. I can 2 services for $60. so I am guessing 3 wil be approx. $80-$85. If TWC wont match it and I doubt they will. I am switching back to WOW.

NYC internet running as fast as a paraplegic.

So i just moved to NYC where the one and only service provider is my area (astoria) is TWC. Its garbage. So ive called and delt with all the customer "service" bs only to be told, tough shit - deal with it basically. Ive run the speakeasy test (and road runner test) and i got about 12mb /\ 0.5mb \/ which should be alright except that my browsing is absurdly slow (on my mac and my roommates pc) as well as on my 360 gameplay is absurd. So im wondering is this just a TWC deal where they just dont have the network capacity or is this something with my setup/wireless router?

Same issue in NC

The problem is the upload speed. I have TWC also and get a great 17.58 mb download. No complaints there. But, when you have 17.5 mbps and only 684 Kbps, it's a problem. If you put in halo: reach and look at the network settings, it will tell you where you're lacking. My upstream says in big red letters "WARNING!" *sigh* Alas, when I called a little peeved, I was told it was what I pay for. Which is crap, because you pay for the download speed, not the up load. I'm still trying to figure it out, but wanted to share what I knew... Good luck.

Call the presidents office

Call TW Presidents office and file a formal complaint at 203-328-0600. That's the only way to get things done...

Disrupted Service, Not Just Keeping Up(stream)

-Brighthouse/Roadrunner from Birmingham, AL. to Bessemer, AL.

---First off, Cat6 run through my entire house, no splices, straight from main to receptacle. Internet has no splices, runs from main box to modem/router. Digital phone & internet (highest offered speed for internet). Belkin full MIMO router showing no signs of distress PC is state of the art, built by myself 5 years ago and still surpassing specs on PCs built today. 2 x T10/100/1000 base NICs (onboard) and Ares (Brighthouse) modem.

---Every morning (at minimum) my phone service is disrupted. Normally it is the telephone; 8am, every morning, no phone whatsoever. Dropped calls started the recent discussions between Brighthouse/RoadRunner tech support (611) and myself. In the middle of a call, the phone would squeal like it lost reception and then cut out. Hang up and try to dial and I'd be dialing buttons in someone's ear or I would get no dialtone.

---For years technicians have been coming out and saying that they couldn't find anything on my end, it was in the area and they were investigating what it was. All I have to say to this is that I signed a contract for 20MB/2MB and that is not what I have gotten, on any given day, for 3 years... since we added phone and they changed our modems from the Surfboard SB5101 to this Ares, so they haven't abode by the contract for 3 years now.

---I was told a "high pitched squeal/noise" was heard over our line, so they scheduled a service call. The technician came out 3 weeks ago & told me that my downstream "frequency was too high and it was robbing" my phone, so he "turned it down and we shouldn't drop calls anymore". The very next day I was online speeding along, I answered the phone, went to check rockauto.com for a part for my friend and I had no internet. Reset my router and internet is fine... then it's gone again. Router isn't restarting, I am getting a damaging signal from the provider that is knocking out my phone. Modem replaced last week because for 3 years we have been complaining about interrupted service and finally I told them I wanted a new modem, regardless of whether or not their tests showed it was bad.

---At one time I had 6 technicians outside my house, all voting on which of the 6 cable splitters in their bags was best and changing wiring around until they received a good signal. What do you tell them, "leave the wiring where it's at and get off my property"? This is what I feel like doing!

---What I suspect, and I might be just yelling conspiracy... besides the fact that this provider lacks technology to solve simple problems like bad signal... I believe in my case where I am constantly being kicked offline/phone, is Brighthouse is trying to damage my HDTV so that I will purchase an HD receiver from them. There is nothing to explain this high pitched tone and lines across the screen on my HDTV that remind you of the ol' days when someone keyed up their CB in the neighborhood.

---I am really getting sick of every Tom, Dick & Harry coming over to my house and telling me their untrained guess of what is happening with the service I am paying for. Ninety dollars a month is no freakin joke!

Time Warner Service in Ny Fails

Normally 8 - 15 Mbps Download which is great. But I rarely hit 90kbps upload speed.

I second this, but in KS

I live near Kansas City, KS, I have the 15meg down/1up. Speed ratio (download/upload) is horrible. Cox communications is clearly a better choice, if they were offered in the area. The only way to get faster upload speeds is to pay +$10 per 1mbps upload -or- purchase their business line. All of which is overpriced.

im sorry to inform you of

im sorry to inform you of this but i have cox Ive had to do tons of tech work myself because there to ignorant to figure it out we live in a small town in south east Kansas not even a half mile from service route and the connection drops to zero during even mist. they wont replace the bad line saying its not there problem what i don't understand is how its not there problem considering that the line that is bad is under city property which makes it public not the private establishment i live in. and at least 1 week a month we have issues for a week straight even if the weather is beautiful.

Time Warner upload is prehistoric

I have no complaints about my download speed from Time Warner. Its my upload...and here in North Carolina you have to have the "turbo" package to even get 512kbps upload. If you have the standard package, you only get 384 kbps. I can't believe a company would actually see these speeds as "turbo". Yeah, 512 kbps upload may have worked well in 2003, but its 2010 now. You can hardly even upload pictures to Facebook or videos to Youtube with speeds that slow. Time Warner needs to get in the game. Cox cable offers 15mbps down and 5 mbps to their standard customers and Comcast has a similar package (i think they offer 3mpbs up) all without having to pay for a "turbo" package. If I had another option, I would ditch TWC as soon as possible.

Time Warner Cable

Time Warner has Pissed me of for the Last Time.
Tech is here now to replace not only your home phone, but also Cable.

If any of you have triple play, you can take advantage of the Magic jack in Conjuction with a HDMI cord from Your computer to the TV to eliminate the need for anything other than a $49 dollar bill for all services.

I wil be saving over $1100 a year.
You can do it too if You find your budges tight.
New TV's are coming out with Web Applications like Netflix and UTube, and Facebook built right in. Add the Capabilities of the Computer, and You have much more programming then They give You for Tripple The Price. You will Have to Look to find what websites or streams have your content like I did before you get up the guts, but it is So Worth it. I am Even buying that New TV I have Waited 14 Years to buy with Just a Portion of my savings on the first year.

Suck it TWC for overcharging and Not Caring.

MWAH.

You think you guys have shitty internet?

I have the regular TW cable internet service and I rarely get more than 700 kbp/s. It's not my wiring, it's not my modem. It's the local service here in North Carolina run by a bunch of ignorant rednecks who know jack squat about internet beyond what their Time Warner training taught them. I can go to any speed test and get results like 16 mbp/s or 25 mbp/s and none of that is accurate. If I start downloading a large file that may be, say, more than 200kb in size, everything else I do online will lag from a lack of bandwidth. I can't even browse the internet without waiting longer than I did when I had dialup. It takes me 2 hours to download a couple gigs worth of files. They're not concerned with your woes or how slow your internet works beyond shutting you up so you don't sue them. Like all profit companies, all they care about is making you pay them. They do not care how badly they fuck you. Give it up and deal with it. These people claiming they get the accurate speeds are only lucky that they live in an area where their Time Warner service is good, because most places aren't that fortunate. The businesses in said places just are not up to pace with the promised quality of service. You see those commercials advertising 15 megs a second? Try putting a decimal between the 1 and the 5. That seems more realistic, right?

Man...

This sounds like you either: A.)Have programs updating/connecting constantly to the net in the background; B.) you have a Trojan; C.) you need to do a disk cleanup. Too many temp files or error reports stored. Or D.) It IS your wiring or modem and you'd rather say its not because everything is still "almost new". lol just kidding:) If none of that is true, then maybe try connecting the PC straight to the modem bypassing any routers and splitters. If speed test say you are getting 20mbps then you ARE getting that speed to the modem, but between the modem and the PC the info is being slowed (Ethernet cord or possibly the Ethernet card itself is defective/worn?)
If you werent getting 20mbps, but only the 700kbps you claim, then this would be reflected in the speed test. it would say you are getting 700kbps, not 20mbps. I know for a fact that when my Ethernet wire wore out, my connection behaved this way, crawling through the web but speed tests telling me its moving fast. Sorry but it sounds like the problem is on your side.

And another thing could be your using a file sharing program (Bit torrent etc.) to download and its making lots of connections, uploading and downloading simultaneously. Thats the only time i cant download and surf the web at the same time without lag...

Where r u in nc?

I'm in the garner area. What general area r u? My RR service is suspect some time but in general appears to be good. How can I get a reliable measure of the speed to evaluate this?

AMEN!

AMEN! To that. I also live in NC and I agree. Lets all move away to a place where people know what they are doing.

Road Runner Turbo

I got road runner turbo a year and a half ago i was getting an average speed of 4.6mbs. I had no idea how slow this was for turbo until a friend enformed me. when i called they ran all these test and said it was fine. Six months later the internet went out and long story short i went to T. W. and traded my modem in. When i got it reconnected i instantly got speeds of 32.6mbs. And this has been the norm the last three months. So it had to be thebox. I am extremely happy with this service now.

Time Warner Turbo Road Runner

I have not seen anyone comment on one of the most common problems when your Turbo Road Runner is not giving you your 15mb per second, that being your own home router. Before you accuse Time Warner, or even call them, you should connect a PC directly to the cable modem bypassing your router, reboot the cable modem, and then check your speed. When I did this my speed went from 3.5 mbps to over 20 mbps, with an upload speed of 3mbps. This is more than I am paying for. A lot of old style home routers were designed for DSL speeds and top out at 5mbps. Replacing or tweaking your router may be the answer as it was for me. Try setting your router MTU for 1350 instead of it's max value or setting it on auto. I use a cheap Linksys/Cisco E1000 with MTU set at 1350 and I consistently get 15mbps through the router, sometimes more, sometimes a little less. Note that even a good home router is going to reduce your bandwidth by 5mbps or so over what you get connected directly to the cable modem. It is for this reason (so I was told by a Time Warner tech) that the Turbo service actually gives you 20+ mbps and over 2mbps upload. I have experienced problems with a number of home routers significantly slowing down my internet connection, or starting fast and then slowing down quite a lot after a few hours or days of operation. Most notably, the expensive CIsco/Linksys E3000 has this problem in a bad way and needs to be rebooted regularly to maintain full speed. This problem is documented on Cisco's support page although they have done nothing to fix it to date. I returned the E3000 and replaced it with the E1000 ($200 vs $59 respectively) and never have any problems with it.

On the other hand if you are not getting 20mbps or so directly out of the cable modem then call them and make them fix it.

OTOH

Recently they had an external line problem, which they tried to fix by changing the modem. Didn't work, of course, but that's what they do. Anyway, they took my fine CISCO 2100 and replaced it it an Ambit POS. Now, my "turbo" cablemodem can't get more than 11Mbps at any time of day or night, instead of the 20-25Mbps I was getting with the same exact setup.

And of course, they blame my router because they think everyone is stupid. It is really amazing to see how these companies take happy customers and treat them like $hit. I guess they don't really care.

TW Road Runner v.s. ATT ELITE

I had ATT elite(6mbps/down 768kbps up, was 6 and 1.5) for three years up until last month. paid $39.99 per month. I'm on the internet ALL day literally! I got constant speeds of 4.2 mbps down and 512 kbps up.
I now have TW bundle pack (standard cable phone and standard RoadRunner service, no turbo for about $82). I'm supposed to be getting 10 mbps down and 768 kbps up, but even at peak hours I get a minimum of 26.74 mbps down and 978.9 kbps up according to Speedtest.net
My fastest speed so far is 36.31 mbps down and 1.30 mbps up. And I live in what is considered the poor side of Los Angeles
SORRY AT&T! YOU CAN'T KEEP UP!

Poor Part of L.A.?

211THAKING,

Your download times are deceptively fast because your tests are 1) to a local L.A. server 2) a dedicated server for speed tests, and 3) NO LOAD test (meaning, tests are not a true representation of REAL graphics intensive page loads).

Time Warner, as many have stated here, is slow. We can go to SpeakEasy and get up to 30 Mbps download speeds but NONE of our REAL WORLD web-based apps are loading anywhere near that fast. Vonage provides a TRUE speed test - they have to for accurate troubleshooting with respect to their VOIP. A good VOIP signal needs a minimum bandwidth or speed. Vonage consistently returns download speeds of 2-5 Mbps!!! Just to confirm, we have used other test sites that provide "load" tests (files consisting various size MB loads). They all return the same slow speeds.

Time Warner's speed advertising is misleading and dishonest. They base their advertised speeds on the aforementioned "NO-load" (probably in the VERY low kilobyte range; most likely FAR less than 50 KB loads). Real world applications (we run graphics intensive investment sites) are not measured in these LOW time (rip-off) warner specifications.

BOTTOM LINE: someone mentioned that they cannot wait for competitors to come into their area (other than ATT). We're the same way. We are lobbying heavily for our local market to get Verizon FIOS in our area. Should that happen, "Adios" TWC! You deserve to go BK for your poor Customer Service, arrogance and greediness (ultimately, speeds are "throttled" to conserve TWC bandwidth, therefore allowing them to increase their per-subscriber profit margin).

OH YEA...

D RAILROAD, ofcourse if you test to a local server you get faster times, just like if you test to a very far away server you get deceptively SLOW speeds! Info has to travel. The further it goes, the more it bounces from server to server, the longer it takes... plus not all servers relay info at the same speed.
ALL companies advertise their speed based on test to local servers, because you wont get the same speed to a server in Toronto, as you would to a server in Dallas, from a server in L.A. Web pages are hosted on servers ALL OVER THE WORLD. So if you dont advertise the speed you get to the local server, which would give you the MAX speed your connection is capable of (which is what I believe ALL companies do, advertise the MAX speed you can get with their service.) then your stuck advertising the AVERAGE speed to all servers in the WORLD which is a ridiculous amount of work! Even Verizon Fios does this. Do you really think all web pages load at 30mbps on Fios. No silly. Some are gonna load slower than advertised speeds.

Also remember, advertised speed are megaBITS per second. Alot of speed test are conducted in megaBYTES, which also could mislead you into thinking you are getting slower speeds than advertised. That's what I think Vonage is doing to you... Speedtest.net says I get 30+ megaBITS per second. My download manager says I'm downloading at a rate of 3.12 megaBYTES per second. I would be pretty pissed if I saw that and didnt know the difference!!!
And I have no clue what you did to get throttled because I'm a huge p2p file-sharer(which is why I hate that my upload speeds are slow) and I still get normal speeds. Peer-to-peer filesharing is what internet providers are really trying to throttle to save bandwidth, so why you get throttled? IDK. Maybe in your area they throttle but not here. at least not yet 6 months later...

I'm not gonna rip a company because others say its slow. I posted here to give my opinion of the service I am receiving. and I gave it, honestly. In my area, it is the fastest available at a reasonable price and I get what they advertised to me if not more! Even if their speed test are false, I can SEE the difference in load times when compared to ATT. and by comparing the two, I KNOW I am getting far faster speeds than the 6mbps I was supposed to be getting from them! plain and simple.

Speedtests

All speedtests can be misleading due to how they run/calculate the tests. Typically it's a file download of a known size and they measure the time. If the file isn't big enough, it can be really misleading on big pipes vs small file sizes.

As for VoIP, it needs very little bandwidth. Depending on the CODEC it can be as little as 30k. With standard A-LAW or U-LAW it's an advertised 64k channel, but with overhead - figure about 100k. That's not much. The real requirement for quality voice in regards to network infrastructure, is latency and jitter. If you have rock solid jitter (variation of delay between packets), you can even deal with latency to some extent. A good rule of thumb for VoIP is 125ms , including encoding.

Rock solid Jitter...

Time Warner(my house):ping 17ms., jitter 1ms. (tested today) 10mbps connection that regularly hits 30mbps (maybe they accidentally gave me turbo? lol)
ATT (neighbors house) ping 114ms. jitter 37ms. (tested yesterday) 6mbps connection (dont know y it didnt when I had ATT, but her's hits exactly 6mbps)

and on top of that, if i were to subtract my phone and cable service from my bill, I am actually paying LESS than she is for faster and better service! So really I dont know what all the complaints are about. I get FASTER speeds than advertised. Maybe certain regions get better service than others...I dont know. I hate TW, but the only complaint I have against their internet service is that its still not fast enough! other countries get 60+mbps connections! When are our companies going to try to catch up?

UHH...

ALL of what you are saying I already know. And I agree, when FIOS gets here TW is toast. But you completely missed the point. Compared to the next fastest IP (ATT) at that price in my area, TW is BY FAR faster and has better customer service, even though the customer service still sux, its better then ATT.
With ATT my upload speed got cut in half after about the 1000th service interruption. Their explanation for this? Since my service had been "cut off" and the package i had been receiving is now only available with the slashed upload speed, I had to either pay the same price for slower uploads or upgrade to business and pay 30-40 bucks more for upload speeds I had already been getting before!
With ATT I had to wait what seemed like 15-20 seconds for a simple website like Yahoo to load. With TW its loaded in 2 blinks of an eye... Video buffering? same deal! PS3 lagged seriously in-game with ATT, only minor lag with TW... If my ATT service slowed down more than usual and i give them a call, its ALWAYS a problem with my modem cuz their computer says my line quality is good. Well guess who i got my modem from on all of those occasions!?!?
And i guarantee that if Vonage say TW is really 2-5 mbs, then ATT is less than 1mbps!

I have been with time Warner

I have been with time Warner for 6-7 years and have had rr turbo for the past year or so. At first I was averaging 3-4 mbits down. After having a tech come to the house and confirming everything was technically ok and I was in fact not getting the speeds I should be he submitted a ticket to the engineering dept to upgrade the service in my area. He said basically that too many people were on one node and they would need to split it into two to improve performance but he made no guarantees that they would actually do it. So for two months I monitored my speed and called to complain every week or two. After two months I was credited for the difference in price from standard to turbo for the entire period I was receiving sub standard speeds and voilĆ  my speed test results went from average of 3-4 mbits to 12-14 mbits. That's during peaks hours also. In off peak times it's not uncommon for me to hit 20 mbits down. Now these speeds r in megabits not megabytes. If any of u are clocking your speeds by downloading in your browser or bittorrent those speeds are represented in mbytes so take that number multiply by 8 or simply run a speedtest at either speakeasy or speedtest.net. Both should give u accurate results. Anyway the point is that if u know how to deal with them and u know what ur paying for and how tell if ur getting it they will fix it to keep ur business.
Ps. As soon as fios is available here I will however be saying goodbye to time Warner

Same problems...

Spent the money for Turbo and it isn't so "turbo" much of the time. Especially when I really need it, like streaming netflix movies, and that's the most frustrating - because I must call TWC and spend an hour or more on the phone (after I wait in a queue) while a person (actually, more like a robot) reads a script of actions that I must take on my end (that I've already done, and explained several times). The long story short - DON'T BUY "turbo" from TWC - it's a SCAM. You MAY get "turbo" some of the time, if you're lucky, but most of the time (and when you aren't looking) they're billing you for turbo but giving you standard speed. It's a SCAM.

I have road runner turbo 2

I have road runner turbo 2 and it is always 5 mbps

Lucky One inconsistently

I guess I must be the lucky one purchasing rrTurbo. I tested on speakeasy.net and right off the bat got 18000 kbps down 500 kbps up. Though after multiple tests it ranged between 5-14 mbps downloading to my closest area. I think my uploading might be slower than advertised because I'm on an Acer AspireOne laptop. The only thing that's important I suppose is that Video Gaming on xbox 360 is never very bad since I got a NetGear Router and no one complains about lag when I Host a game.

The WORST service EVER!!!!!!!!!

I've no idea where to begin and it would take an entire novel to recap my experience with Time Warner and Road Runner...so I'll sum it up.

I had originally bought everything from TW, except the phone...thank god. I had the Digital HD package with every channel i.e. HBO, MAX, Show, TMC etc. I also got their internet.

From the get go nothing worked. The Tech came and installed the wrong box for the HD digital cable, then another wrong box and then ANOTHER! He said the warehouse must've given him the wrong ones. So he left to get the right one. He returned and guess what...wrong one. All in all the tech took 5 hours to hook things up. I say hook up because all their wiring is already here. Time Warner is the only company that supplies my building - something me and the other residents are currently looking into.

I have called "support" for both internet and cable more times than I can count and have been driven MAD with the lack of knowledge, professionalism and English skills exhibited by their people. Each time you call you are asked for all of your information i.e. Address, Phone number, Name, most recent bill etc. Moreover, every time you are transferred you are asked the same questions AGAIN!!!

The first person will also give you an "issue number", which no other department uses. So when you are transferred the people have no idea what your problem is and you must literally begin again and again and again. They say it's to protect your privacy. However, when you call an automated voice sometimes tells you what your balance is...without "verifying" who you are.

Over the last 3 years I have had countless numbers of Techs and supervisors come out and not one fixed anything. The cable would regularly go out, as well as the internet. I have spoken with their alleged "Top techs" and am only told that they will send someone out, which achieves nothing. I have recently canceled my cable, thinking this would prompt a quick response...NOT. My internet continues to work intermittently i.e. at the moment I have about 12Mb download and .11 (yes, POINT 11) upload.

ON the issue of "Turbo". I once had a "Top tech" explain that Turbo is not what people think. He said that the Turbo simply allocates more of the "unused highways" (in other words during low periods of use you may see an increase in your D/Upload) to you. However, he pointed out that this happens anyways.

After having spoken with friends in the industry and other Tekki's I have concluded that the problem is the wiring being old. TW is NOT going to replace wiring until all service completely fails...count on it!

I will be canceling Road Runner as soon as the other residents and I find a suitable replacement.

You should talk with them...I

You should talk with them...I have Standard with Powerboost and I pull 10000 - 21000Kbps all the time easy...lowest I've had is 6500Kbps at one point...

Tired of being ripped off!!!!

I've always hated time warners loopholes and hidden fees, or SURPRISE charges that come out of no where. Like the OP...there was NO competition so I was pretty much stuck with Time Warner internet where I was at.

We changed to Turbo and had our speeds significantly reduced and decided that it WASN'T worth paying extra for a slower service. When we called about an 89 dollar bill (remember, for INTERNET ONLY) we got told about modem fee this (even though the website FAQ section proclaims the modem is FREE) and told we were being pro-rated for the HD service we had used.

We then had to NEGOTIATE with the rep on the phone to pay for only HALF of the service since we'd been running so much slower. Our speed was at 986 kbps download and 350 kbps upload. So we downgraded to standard again only now our speeds are LOWER then the proclaimed (7 - 10 mbps)

ANYONE OUT THERE needs to check their speed at speakeasy.net and choose the state or region closest to where you live. We are STILL trying to get the speeds we are paying for at this time.

If you don't look, you could be getting ripped off right under your nose and not even know it.

Internet companies advertise

Internet companies advertise their speed at Mega bits per second.e.g. 15 Mbps, so 1.5 MB/s or Mega Byte per second is to be expected.

EXACTLY!!!!

That is what all these people claiming they are getting slower than what they pay for need to realize! Either you really have something wrong with your line(which most are right, it's TW's fault) or you are seeing them advertise, lets say, 10mbps service and you are expecting to see 10megaBYTES instead of 10megaBITS / 1megaBYTE per second. I really don't or can't see the problem everyone has with TW. When I first got it, it was slow, I made a call, they made it seem like it was a problem on my end, I let them know I knew what I was talking about by telling them EXACTLY STEP BY STEP how I set the connection up, they gave in and admitted it was their modem, which was a lie, so when the tech came to change the modem I had him download a photo album off the net to prove to me the speed, it was slow, so he climbed the telephone pole and found that another tech had been upgrading the lines in the area, because they were "from the '90s" as he put it, and had reconnected them wrong. He fixed them, and going 1yr. and a couple months, I have yet to have a problem with speed, or interruption. I live in South Central Los Angeles, I have NEVER had an internet connection that runs at the speed advertised until I got TimeWarner! The only thing wrong is customer service. They read a script to you because they know the average computer user knows very little about the computer and how it works. They prey on innocent people this way by telling you it's your hardware causing the problem, when they know it's most likely their own outdated cable lines!

Time Warner South Texas

I'm a very heavy user and typically download 400-500GB per month. We have Time Warner Cable with HD service and just like to watch TV when we want so we download all the TV in HD almost every day. My speeds were rock solid 800k down for almost 2 years and as of April 15, 2010 (Tax day no less), speeds were cut to 200k down (2 days of slow speed now).
We use newsgroups and can easily monitor speeds. Direct connect to modem and no change. Call to CS results in (you look perfect here). Speed tests give the same result eliminating the newsgroup server as the bottleneck. I suspect I've been throttled and just not told. Comcast would just cut your account and force you to call in and endure a little scolding. Might just be something on my end, just a heads up if others see the same behavior.

Just for all of you out there

Just for all of you out there that are worried about turbo or regular roadrunner, check your speeds then call them if you are not getting what you paid for. I am an ex time warner tech, serviced this stuff for 8 years and I saw many times where the account wasn't setup correct, a tech installed a crappy modem, or the line feeding the house was bad or poor. This stuff will all affect your service. Call them and make them fix it. Also, you can always make the tech run a test before he leaves and if he won't.....just tell him to wait and call the office....he'll run the test at that point, TRUST ME.

Thank You...

That's what I'm trying to tell people. CALL TIMEWARNER AND FORCE SOMEONE TO COME OUT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!
IT'S NOT THEIR SERVICE, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY THEY TOOK OVER YOUR OLD CABLE/PHONE COMPANY AND ARE STILL USING OLD LINES! OR THEY SET YOU UP WRONG. That's the cause of your problem, they are not (always) trying to get over on you, or you are forgetting that advertised speeds are MEGABITS per second, not MEGABYTES. ANYWAY IF YOU CALL THEM AND SOUND LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW JACK, YOU WON'T JACK GET FIXED!!! If your a novice, do a little research on the connection speed you pay for and remember every 10 megaBITS you pay for equals 1 megaBYTE. So 30mb/ps = 3MB/ps. LET THEM KNOW YOU KNOW THIS!!! Otherwise they WILL just give you whatever they want and you will fall under the category of DON'T KNOW JACK!

My experience..

I've had turbo for about a year now and I've been suspicious about its speeds for a long time. I tested today and got 7mbps down on the broadband.gov site using Ookla. So I called customer service and they basically said that it looked fine on their end concerning my modem, etc and that they would transfer me to the technical guys to talk to me. But I had a dispute with my bill so I transferred to the retention center first. Long story short, I ended up canceling turbo so I could bring my costs down for internet.

However, I tried testing again using the same site and also speedtest.net, and they both gave me 2-4mbps now that i've canceled turbo (I did these second tests only 30 minutes after my call so don't know if the turbo actually "shut down" or not).

In any event, as you can see, none of my tests have reached anyplace close to 15mbps. So I feel like I've been ripped off for a whole year. But now that the year's past, I feel like I can't prove anything or do much about it now, especially since I just canceled turbo. But I want the money back that I wasted on turbo... so what can I do? What are my options?

I almost feel like calling them back tomorrow night and telling them this. Then asking if they can try and experiment where they turn turbo back on just to test to see how my speeds are and prove that I'm right or not. And if I am right, then demand my year's worth of wasted turbo money back. But will this work?

I feel so defeated, please help.

Time Warner Turbo

I also had a similar experience with turbo however I noticed it during the 30 day trail offer and canceled..My average speed remained the same 6 MB download .5 upload..What is very strange though is all of a sudden in the last two weeks my speed has jumped from 6 MB to 24 MB..Has anyone noticed a huge jump in the download speed with Time Warner..My upload speed has not changed it is still .5

Time Warner is ripping us off

Back in December 2008, time warner sent out letters to customers (I still have mine) stating they were increasing their regular internet speed to 10 mbps download and 1 mbps up and for turbo users who pay an extra 13.00 each month they were increasing it to 15 mbps down and 2 mbps up. There is also an article about this online. I remember the tv commercials. So I just recently found out after paying for turbo for years that, without notice to anyone they have changed the levels to basic, standard and turbo and turbo is now back to 10 mbps down and 1 mbps up. This is called bate and switch and never even told us anything. What can we do about this? I'm really mad and feel so ripped off by them its unbelievable. I need to report this to someone, but not sure who I contact.
thank you

Who to call about Time Warner Internet

Depending on where you are, you can try contacting the State Dep't of Utilities. In NY for instance, cable and internet service is regulated by the NYS Dep't of Utilities and you can file a complaint with them online. As soon as that happens, in my experience, a customer service rep gets in touch with you pronto to fix the problem and make you happy one way or another -- they want you to withdraw the complaint or have the complaint filed under "solved" -- the number of complaints filed and the number of open complaints is something TW really cares about.

I just turned on TW Turbo

I just turned on TW Turbo internet and am getting 25.46 Mbps down and 1.86 Up. I can only complain about the upstream.

RR Turbo is legit

http://www.speedtest.net/result/710748080.png

thats an average speedtest result for me... and that's over 200 miles away.... like I said, aside from Fios Fiber Optic, which we don't have available, it's without a doubt the best option in Central NY... well Utica atleast, I'm pretty sure Syracuse has Fios... I get downloads at 3mb/s +

RR speed tests are not legit.

RR speed tests are not legit. They are affected by PowerBoost Technoloy, so it doesn't accurately represent bandwidth speed, as powerboost adds more bandwidth sparingly; typically at the beginning of downloads.

My comments: 1. January 15,

My comments:
1. January 15, 2010: I requested High Definition service from Time warner. On that same day, even prior to the installation of the service, I paid TWC $94.77 ( cash) in advance for the HD service for the next 9 months (mid-October 2010), which is the end of my present cable tv service contract. I was given the assurance by TWC's agent that I could cancel the service within 60 days and (still) receive my FULL refund. "Money Back Guarantee within 60 days."

2. January 16, 2010: The technician came to my residence to install the HD service. Disaster!! The HD service, if installed, would render my DVD/VHS recorder un-usable. I, therefore, declined the installation service and requested my refund.

3. 9:30 A.M. January 19, 2010: I received a call from TWC's agent. The TWC agent requested the reason(s) why I had declined the HD service. I reiterated my reason stated above, i.e. my DVD/VHS recorder would be un-usable with the HD. I restated my request for the FULL refund of $94.77. The agent assured me that my refund would be forth-coming, within 5 days.

4. 9:15 A.M. January 20, 2010: I received a call from another TWC agent, informing me as follows: My refund would not be forwarded to me, but my account would be credited if I accepted TWC's 2-year subscription of Road Runner and Digital phone services at a fee (which is much higher than that which I am presently paying with my present provider). I vehemently declined. "What about my refund?" I asked. "Well, we are thinking about it and have not yet decided. My supervisor will call you later on today", the TWC agent said. I waited all day. No telephone-call from the (ghost) supervisor.

4:45 P.M. January 20, 2010: I called the last TWC agent but the extension which this agent provided me was a non-working extension.
5:00 P.M. - 5:15 P.M. January 20, 2010: I made three phone calls and spoke to various TWC agent but none seemed to have a clue of my situation.
5:20 P.M. I called the telephone extension of the very first TWC representative, the one to whom I had spoken on January 19, 2010. No answer, but I left a lengthy and very clear message, informing this agent about my dilemma, and requesting that urgent intervention be undertaken to implement my refund. MORE THAT 24 HOURS LATER, I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A FEED-BACK FROM THIS AGENT.

5. 9:30 A.M. January 21, 2010: I made another call to TWC inquiring about my refund. Remember, every time that you call TWC, you get a defferent agent who does not have the slightest notion or information of your situation. This last agent was, however, somewhat professional and willing to help (for once). I was told by this agent that my "REFUND might be sent" to me within "the next 30 days." I was not given a definitive answer regarding the status of my refund.

CONCLUSION: TWC literally "threatens" its customers for outrstanding payments. But, when it is the other way around, when Time Warner Cable owes you money, they give you the run-around and even shows continued reluctance to pay you. If TWC is really serious about staying afloat of the competitive TV and Internet market, it must improve its marketing and customer service strategies, as well as the quality of its products.

This issue had nothing to do

This issue had nothing to do with the correct speed being "attached" to your line. The modem downloads a configuration file which configures its maximum allowed upload and download rates. If your account had the correct services on it but the modem never downloaded the correct configuration file, you likely would have paid the "Turbo" rate without getting the service. Restarting the modem will fix this issue. On the other hand, if your account was not configured correctly in Time Warner's billing system, then you would not have paid the Turbo rate and of course would not get the Turbo speed. In any case, Time Warner can issue a reset command to the modem to force it to download the correct file.

Concerning U-Verse, the technology behind this service is ridiculous. The resulting service is only appealing to people who will not sign up with a cable company. The main problem is with the equipment used between the copper line to your home and the fiber optic lines to AT&T. This piece of equipment is called a "VRAD". It is not just one device, but rather multiple systems all contained within a massive cabinet.
http://media.sastek.net/bbs_pics/vrad.jpg

What's more, is a few of these monstrosities have caught fire!
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Confirms-Second-VRAD-Fire-86984

In comparison, cable companies use what they call a "Fiber Node" to join their fiber and copper, a device which is much less complex, and as a result is much less prone to failure.
http://www.artisan-scientific.com/itemimages/CCOR_FlexNet900_View1.jpg

The maximum total download bandwidth possible over a UVerse line is somewhere around 30MBps. If you want TV or phone service, some of that bandwidth is reserved for those services.

It seems that AT&T might be waking up to how idiotic this implementation is though. According to Wikipedia there have been some Fiber-to-the-home U-Verse installs which bypass this VRAD nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uverse

Not at all true about Uverse

The previous post is in no way accurate about Uverse. There are very few cable companies that can deliver half the bandwidth of At&t's all fiber optic Uverse.
The post is slanderous and false. Likely invented by cable company marketing.
It's as untrue as Verizon's map commercials.

Are you getting what you paid for?

I recently upgraded to Time Warner "Turbo" Internet. I went to speakeasy.net and here are my results.

DL Speed (3187 Kbps)
UL Speed (893 Kbps)

Could someone please tell me if I'm getting what I paid for? My speed on my computer usually varies from 1.0 Mbps to 11.0 Mbps
Thank you!!!!

thats not turbo speed!

Those are very slow speeds. That is definitely not turbo speeds! I just upgraded to turbo also and was getting a 5mbps download speed and couldn't figure why it was so slow. I then realized my cable modem from time warner was over 8 years old and that was the problem. The representative told me to go to the nearest Time Warner place and trade it for a new modem. I am now getting speeds around 14 to 15mbps on downloads. Just make sure you have a newer modem that can handle it!

It has been good

I have had every internet. modem, 2 modem shotgun, dsl slow, medium fast, upload synchronous, asynchronous broadband 4 different ways...As time goes by, it just gets faster. Time warner is the strangest I have had...with a .45mbps upload- strictly..at all times... a point 45mbps upload and anything from 8mbit to 20mbit from one end of the earth to the other. I only despise lack of synchronous. the upload is like telling me to keep my junk at home, bt you can hoard all you want to. It is not in the desing of even the oldest lan cars to be that stupidly offset.

I have the same problem...

I have the same problem... 0.49Mbps upload no matter what, even when I'm getting 10Mbps download. Has anyone heard an explanation for this? Is there a way to fix it? Also, could this slow upload speed explain why video-chat won't stay connected for more than 30 seconds? (The user on the other end has 5Mbps download/2Mbps upload)

@karthick

There is no "Roadrunner software", moron. That's like asking someone to burn you a copy of a the Internet.

Well, CAN you burn me a copy

Well, CAN you burn me a copy of the internet? I've got half a box of floppies...will that be enough?

I can't stop

Ok, you have almost caused me to choke, I have laughed so hard. Thank you for the humor. It is so refreshing and you are hysterical. If you ever think of doing standup, let me know. I'm already a fan. :-)

share plz

can anyone please share the software ( road runner turbo) with me????

it would be so kind of you if u do so...

 

Road Runner

Hey I have had Verizon DSL and I have been downloading at a speed from 6 kbps - 30kbps lately, and the most I have ever downloaded with them was I believe 180 or 190 kbps. I couldn't stand waiting for Fios in my area since it has been 1 year since they said it would become available in 2 months so I decided to select Road Runner. I have tested it the first day and it told me I was getting 21 mbps, I couldn't believe it so I went to download a random item I have downloaded before which was about 10gb. The download speed was fluctuating between 300kbs-1.8mbps which I think is a HUGE range. The average of the download was 500-600 kbps which I thought was fine. Now I would like to know how much faster would it be if I were to purchase Turbo from Road Runner and how stable would it be? Would I have 2mbps for example all the time, day and night? Please reply I've been wondering so much about this! And if there is a better company which is faster and even if it's a little more expensive please leave a note ;D Thank you!

Right now the best package we

Right now the best package we have for internet service is the Road Runner Turbo (The standard would provide you up to 10Mbps) as you mentioned. However, we can't guarantee that you are going to have the same internet speed everytime since we have several outages sometimes depending of the area you are located, or some other reasons that might interfere with your internet connection. Thank you for being a customer of Time Warner Cable. Have a wonderful day!

Switched to TW

We used to have Verizon who seem to have the monopoly on the phone lines here in the desert..their service was awful..their so called bundle package with landline/internet 3mbs/and basic cable (150 channels) ran me 170 bucks every month AFTER slapping on all their hidden charges, it was supposed to be $139, with TW I am getting 27-30 mbs with 1.8 mbs upload/ and their cable service has 200 channel of basic AND showtime for free for the first year. not to mention their picture is much better! I also have the phone service US area only. the grand total is 145 a month..the service and price I can live with....their customer service is way better than Verizon also..

RR In orlando florida

I recently upgraded to the entire package,Phone,RR Turbo,HD Cable and It seems when they replaced my modem with the new modem with phone service built into the modem my speeds went downhill fast,I went from 20mb download to about 7-8 AND last night i had half a MB and had to reset the modem and it jumped back up to about 17,but now today its slow again.Does anyone else have this problem? The non time warner installer came out,and didnt speak any english but right after i signed the paperwork he says "oh you might have to reset the modem every now and again to get things working" and I said what do you mean and he said well sometimes you have to reset it.So I just shrugged it off,but now Im seeing exactly what he means.

Would you want miles and miles of cable or <150' of coax?

Greetings folks..

After viewing several different households across my city all with the same cable company, something became rather obvious. When the high paying customers (personal friends) become annoyingly tired of snowy and cross-hatched video on various channels, ask yourself a simple question, would you rather go through miles and miles of cable (with repeaters / amplifiers & signal conditions along the way) or less than 150 feet of coax to your TV? Now think about this, it really doesn't take rocket science to figure out which scenario would result in MUCH cleaner video. Each amplifier, repeater & signal conditioner adds more and more RF noise that is cumulative as the miles goes by! Thus, you'll probably answer 150 or less feet of coax around my immediate residence, that's obvious... I don't care what Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) system you chose, it will, by definition, result in cleaner video by the sheer fact that you're not going through miles and miles of cable before you get a signal out the end of the coax! And no, I don't work for any cable or DBS company / distributor - quite frankly, they couldn't pay me enough! The point here is this is common sense for a clean (non-noisy) RF signal!

IF you're completely NON-technical and can't handle hooking up a satellite receiver to a TV set and MUST have the technician do everything for you then a terrestrial cable system may be your only alternative. Just don't gripe because the costs are exceeding the ozone layer OR, even worse, the signal is absolutely horrible with noise (snow) and cross-hatching. Why? Because that's often typical of a terrestrial based cable company. I have now experienced both (actually signed up for both over the years) near the city limits and the cleaner video choice (naturally) was quite obvious from everyone that stopped by and had seen both to be able to do an A vs. B test. Believe me, actually seeing the difference between the two is quite amazing. The totally black images (backgrounds) have NO snow what-so-ever on DBS relative to a terrestrial based cable system.

The above remarks are quite

The above remarks are quite misleading. Satellite signal is a form of RF signal, which in essence is electromagnetic field. It propagates through the atmosphere. Cable TV signal is also a form of electromagnetic field propagation, the only difference is that it propagates through shielded medium, the coaxial cable. So there are no essential difference between satellite signal and cable signal, or any microwave signal at large.

But, the propagation path determines what kind of noise and interference are added to the received signal. In satellite case, the noise and interference are from atmosphere (e.g. bad weather leads to poor reception), solar movement, and anything that affects the electromagnetic field propagation. So, no one CANNOT control the interference and noise in satellite signal, it's all controlled by nature. As to cable signal, it's in very controlled propagation path and all the amplifiers, repeaters, and filters are meant to boost signal-to-noise (SNR) ratio. The above remarks conveniently left out filters, without filters, any amplification of signal also results in amplification of noise, the SNR remains unchanged. When combining filters and amplifiers, the SNR can be improved. And that's good for the end user.

The only fundamentally different technology is optical communications in fiber optics. Where the signal carrier is no longer microwave, but light (or purer light -- laser). Such settings allow for far greater bit-rate and lower noise introduced. The equipments for optical communications have been expensive in the past. But it's getting down to cheap enough that ordinary consumers can afford.

My comments are purely from technology standpoint. The actual quality that end users can perceive also depend on network deployment, load condition, etc.

high speed and TV all on time warner

I would appreciate any advice I can get. I have both Time Warner basic TV (other channels are provided by Dish Network. I have been experiencing off and on snow picture on all TVs hooked up to cable. Have had somebody out twice to check, made some adjustments, worked for awhile, now same problem. I also have wcoil internet through Time Warner using their modem. I have a work computer and a personal computer.
My work computer is giving me fits. Every few minutes picture freezes up. Time Warner has also been out to check this, including installing a new cable. Still having problems. Do you think a higher speed would help and if so it sounds like not everybody is happy with Roadrunner Turbo which I was considering changing to.
Just don't know which way to turn.

Check your equipment.

I did have similar issues with not getting the advertised speed. It turned out to be my Linksys router. It seemed the router could not handle over 7 Mb of download before it would start having trouble. I went and purchased another Linksys router and had the same issue. I upgraded to the latest code with the same results. I then connected a Cisco 871 router (Small Business Class) and my speed jumped to 22 Mb. I then knew it was the home network equipment. I have AT&T and they provided me a D-Link. It seems to be able to handle the speed. The easiest way to test is plug your pc directly into the E-Net modem provided by Road Runner. Go to site speedtest.net. If you are still not getting the download promised you might have an issue with the connecters in your home. Either way have someone dispatched to your home to take corrective action.

Dan, how do you test the

Dan, how do you test the capacity your router could handle?

thank you for your post, i may have found the cause of my rr turbo's slow speed

My speeds...

I have roadrunner, not sure if its the turbo or not, but it must be, seeing as im getting 22mbps on speakeasy... I only download at about 500-700 KBps on average, never seen over 1MBps

Not exactly, ISPs that have

Not exactly, ISPs that have PowerBoost technology will invalidate speed tests, as powerboost dramatically improves bandwidth resulting in an grossly exaggerated bandwidth rate like 22 mbps.

500 KB/s - 700 KB/s is the normal for the regular Road Runner package; however if you have the Road Runner Turbo package, these speeds slow.

RE: My Speeds...

Oh, and I should be getting 1.5 MBps download speeds according to that speakeasy test right?

They do throttle back uploads....

I have roadrunner whatever in the northern New England area. When doing any of the speed/bandwidth tests the download speed is acceptable at about 14 Meg. However, when the testers start the upload they all report about 0.5 Meg then as the upload continues the upload speed drops to half or 0.25 Meg. That is 'throttling' back. I just can't get over how decpetive this company is. I would never ever send anything important over this link because I have absolutely no trust at all in them to not be sniffing data and logging visited sites.

Road Runner Turbo -vs- DSL

Yeh sure,you DSL users run constant speeds that are guaranteed,but the constant speed is CRAP.I hit 22-23 MBPS in the early AM when most sane people are sleeping.I bet is AT&T could push out those speeds,your internet bill would surpass your house payment..LOL...Haven't they raped people for services too long to even be trusted as a ISP?Their idea of basic service includes nothing but unlimited call WITHIN 10 miles,or else it is considered long distance even though it's in the same area code..LMAO..Go with Time Warner for your ISP,but steer clear of their VOIP (digital phone) services...Save time and hassle by going through Vonage for that.Just my 2 cents..:D

Huh???

I have DSL and I pay less than RR turbo, and I get on average 22mbps downstream, and it's consistency is with in 1mbps. With cable internet, the more people around you that have it, the slower you will tend to be.

My brother lives in an apartment complex and everyone there (just about) has cable (RR-Turbo) and he's lucky if he gets over 10mbps downstream and TWC said that that was typical of complexes where many people have internet service. Screw that!

explain this

LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION:
Time Warner road runner supposily runs on the principal on non-dedicated bandwidth , that is , you should be able to compete for the availiable bandwidth within a specifice region. THE bandwidth you can comsume should not have any real limits up to the maximum your cable modem can handle (which for most of the rental cable modem I belive to be close to T1 speed).The only time this is a problem is when there is a large number of users heavily downloading at the same time. Althought TW says that they do not throttle back you maximum bandwidth , how can they say they cam increase your bandwidth on UNDEDICATED bandwidth allotment?

I just upgraded to Turbo

I just upgraded to Turbo Last Result:
Download Speed: 23026 kbps (2878.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1937 kbps (242.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
I cant complain.

roadrunner Turbo

I cant complain. I have roadrunner turbo with download speeds of 24.3 Mbps and upload of 1.2Mpbs. Although I have not, I have heard that changing the cable modem can help things sometimes.

thank you

thank you for this article. it was posted back in july of 2008. i'd just like to mention that it is march 2009 and this is the second time we have ordered road runner "turbo" only this time it's "power charged" ha right! this is also the second time that not only have we experienced the same download/upload speed but at times we experience slower connections. technical support over the phone has tried all they can to help, but couldn't come up with an answer. we even had field technicians and still we received no answers/help. they sent us two new modems, still no fix. we've tried three different routers, we've tried hooking the modem directly to the pc, not just to one but to three different pc's, one in which we formatted and there was absolutely no software to conflict. we've tried seeing if installing a different operating system would fix problems. hell i cant think of all we did but i'm sure we tried everything possible. the reason this extra speed is important to use is because we'd like to use our routers and we have 2 kids and both my wife and i have our own laptops. so we have up to 2 and sometimes three computers connected to the internet at once. and then my children connect their xbox to the internet as well. for 10 dollars extra this turbo by roadrunner seemed like a deal. but it's been more of a hassle and hasn't compensated us. unbelievable to me. we are canceling their high speed service right away this time. we're going to search for a better ISP. if you can be of any help please let me know! and again thank you for your article.

I had the same problem with "turbo"

My speeds never changed, uploads went to 1 meg upstream and downloads stayed at 7megs

I called and requested to cancel service, they sent out a tech who said it was a provisioning problem and they would fix it, i never heard back and next month they billed me $50.00 for the tech.

I called back and complained about the bill, they sent another tech, this tech verified their was a problem, and i refused to sign the log unless he puts "credit for the previous tech" so he did, and i signed

Later they call me and say they put me back on the previous package, (when i ddin't ask for it) i filed a complaint with the attorney general and they credited me $40.00 but never fixed the package i was on, or explain why they could not even come close to the advertised speeds!

ROAD RUNNER TUBRO IS A SCAM! THEY WILL NOT GIVE YOU TURBO SPEED ONLY THE SAME PACKAGE AS BEFORE BUT FOR A HIGHER COST!

They kept saying it was my equipment so i requested they get at least 10 megs down on any tests at my cable box with their own laptop, and they could not even come close!

Roadrunner is definitely doing the job

not that I'm a huge Time Warner fan, but RR Turbo is awesome, and, where I am, in Central NY, it's the best you're gonna get... it's the fastest thing there is besides FIOS, and we don't have that in Utica... but Roadrunner Turbo is great, upload is nothing to write home about, but download is great, I consistently have download speeds of 1.5mb/s and upwards of 3mb/s at times... not complaining one bit, now if they start charging for bandwith, now that's a different story... and DSL is garbage, anyone who has verizon DSL, seriously switch now... huge difference, I had DSL before RoadRunner was available around here because I was desperate for high speed internet for gaming and it was decent like 5 years ago... but if you RoadRunner Turbo is about 20x faster atleast... when I do speedtest, I get about 20mb/s download and 1mb/s up...

turbo

i just upgraded to turbo. so far i see no diferenc and perhaps it has been a little slower

same here same story

same here same story

One Question

After you got the Turbo option installed did you reset your modem? Seems that the speed jump doesn't take place until you do that. A while back I heard I was bumped up, but didn't see any improvement until I reset, after that 15megs NO problem...

Only thing that sucks now is that RR is killing ALL of my P2P traffic, doesn't matter what time of the way. They're going to get a piece of my mind on that..

WOW, Turbo over here in

WOW, Turbo over here in Southern California is 10 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up =[ I wish they would upgrade my area (93030) to 15/2 -_-

I'm envious of you guys for

I'm envious of you guys for having the ability to choose an internet provider.

Here in New Zealand, we have Telecom, Vodafone, and Telstraclear. Apparently there's another company that you can get in one part of the country, but I'm not sure if that's still going. Telecom owns all the phone lines in the country and Vodafone is a mobile phone only company.

Telecom is still peeved about a law being passed about 2 decades ago that put a stop to it's monopoly on the industry and because of that charges it's competitors HUGE fees for line rental, the end result being that telecommunications here are some of the most expensive in the Western world. A 10gB capped broadband plan (if you can get broadband in your area.. it overloads the lines and Telecom is looking at updating them.... they have a 15 year plan...) is around NZ$170 a month (roughly US$130). On top of that, you have to pay $65 a month for line rental (to have a home phone line) and pay about $600 for the products that you need to be able to use the phone and the internet at the same time.

wow new zealand does seem to have a bad broadband deal

Well it is true those those prices you quoted do surpass prices here. That said, I did have more than a hint of sarcasm in my comments about "choosing" (notice the quotes) a broadband provider. In my particular area, there really is NO other realistic option than Time Warner. That said, the 1 or 2 other options that do exist or are on there way in other areas of San Diego and Southern California (DSL, Fiber) do put some amount of pressure on prices. Just imagine what prices may look like if there were even more competition, such as exists in other basic products like food or clothing.

Fire Your cable Company

I have had very good experiences with AT&T's high end DSL Internet service ("Elite" DSL) It is available even if U-Verse has not been rolled out in your area yet. It will not give you subscription TV but there is always satellite (DirectTV or Dish Network) and AT&T can provide subscription TV in a bundle even if U-Verse is not available yet.

Time Warner Cable is notorious for terrible customer service, so much so that a lawsuit was recently filed against them by the City of Los Angeles.

Also, the Cable Companies are on the warpath against customers who share lots of files or use lots of bandwidth- the FCC is contemplating taking action against them for this practice of trying to charge those cutomers more money or disable their Internet service.

Be sure to get the lowest introductory rate on Elite DSL from AT&T.
http://www.att.com/gen/landing-pages?pid=3308

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